From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 23-Jun-14 22:17, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >> On 23-Jun-14 19:33, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>> Change of allegiance, which is what nationalization means, is a   
   >>> much bigger deal than immigrating. Rejecting your home nation by   
   >>> renouncing your citizenship is huge.   
   >>   
   >> Or maybe it's nothing, depending on the other country.   
   >>   
   >> The US does not recognize renunciation of US nationality unless it   
   >> is done freely in front of a US consular official (or due to   
   >> voluntary service in another nation's armed forces).  In   
   >> particular, we reject any renunciation done as a condition of   
   >> gaining another nationality, e.g. as part of an oath of   
   >> citizenship.   
   >   
   > I think that's an income tax thing.   
      
   The principle is that nationality is too sacred to be exchanged for   
   _anything_ another country might offer, including the nationality of   
   that other country.   
      
   Yes, there are also tax implications in the US, but AFAIK that doesn't   
   apply to _any_ other country with the same rule.   
      
   >> Many other countries have the same standard, which is how many US   
   >> immigrants (and emigrants) end up with dual nationality.   
   >   
   > As I was looking it up, residents of the three "compact of free   
   > association" states can indeed end up with dual nationality.   
   > Micronesia requires renunciation between the 18th and 21st birthday   
   > for those with dual nationality by birth.   
      
   I know dual citizens from at least a dozen other countries; in fact, of   
   all the immigrants I know, I'm only aware of _one_ who doesn't still   
   have his birth nationality, and that was voluntary on his part.  Unlike   
   the US, none of those other countries claim the right to tax their   
   nationals' foreign earnings, so that's obviously not why they ignored   
   the renunciation included in the US oath of citizenship.   
      
   >> There are indeed exceptions.  A former coworker from Canada kept   
   >> getting hassled during business trips to the US and was eventually   
   >> denied entry.   
   >   
   > Why?   
      
   He was visiting the US often enough and/or for long enough that they   
   suspected his visits were "work" rather than "business meetings" as he   
   claimed.  Those are very different under immigration law; the latter is   
   okay under a tourist visa (or visa waiver), but the former is not.   
      
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