From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 23-Jun-14 20:31, Jishnu Mukerji wrote:   
   > On 6/23/2014 8:04 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   >> The State Dept has to figure out who is a US national when they   
   >> receive a passport application, and the State Dept has to figure   
   >> out who is a non-citizen national when producing a non-citizen   
   >> national passport.   
   >>   
   >>> That's up to Justice and Homeland Security, not State.   
   >>   
   >> I didn't have to gather any paperwork from Justice or Homeland   
   >> Security when I applied for my first passport, yet State managed to   
   >> figure out that I'm a US national/citizen just fine without it.   
   >   
   > The State Department typically wants to see a Birth Certificate or a   
   > Naturalization Certificate before agreeing to issue a Passport, no?   
      
   You can see the exact requirements here:   
   http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/new.html   
      
   Interestingly, this page doesn't seem to allow for the possibility of   
   issuing passports to non-citizen nationals, so perhaps the question in   
   the other subthread may be moot: non-citizen nationals might only be   
   allowed to apply for a "Certificate of Non-Citizen Nationality", which   
   is, ironically, the US passport they're not allowed to apply for since   
   they're not citizens.  That's the US govt for you.   
      
   > I guess one of them involves Justice or DHS, not the other one.   
      
   There are many options under Step 3: three documents from State, two   
   documents from DHS, one document from a state/local agency--and no   
   documents from DOJ.   
      
   An interesting one I hadn't previously noticed is the Certificate of   
   Citizenship, which is apparently used by DHS if a birth abroad wasn't   
   timely registered with State--or in the case of US citizens adopting a   
   foreign national.   
      
   S   
      
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