From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >On 23-Jun-14 16:23, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>On 23-Jun-14 15:04, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
      
   >>>>>It's unclear to me whether they _always_ get that note on their   
   >>>>>passports or only in the case where they specifically request   
   >>>>>it, which would seem rather odd.   
      
   >>>>It was quite clear to me that, unless they apply for the   
   >>>>specific notion using the specific form, their passport won't   
   >>>>make the distinction.   
      
   >>>There is no mention on that page of what happens if they apply for   
   >>>a US passport _without_ using that form.   
      
   >>Uh, they don't get the supposed benefit of the distinction being   
   >>noted on their passport, duh.   
      
   >Maybe, maybe not.  That web page does not say either way.   
      
   The Web page exists for those who would want such a thing. You're not   
   going to get it without applying for it. I have no idea why this   
   would confuse you.   
      
   >I didn't have to gather any paperwork from Justice or Homeland Security   
   >when I applied for my first passport, yet State managed to figure out   
   >that I'm a US national/citizen just fine without it.   
      
   Terrific. Didn't your birth certificate establish your citizenship?   
   It does for everyone else born here.   
      
   >>>>The former trust territories now in "compact of free   
   >>>>association" with United States, don't conduct their own defence   
   >>>>nor foreign relations. Do they get their passports from the US   
   >>>>State Department?   
      
   >>>CNMI is part of the US now; . . .   
      
   >>Sigh. Northern Marianas is NOT in a compact of free association with   
   >>United States. My comment was about Micronesia, Marshall Islands, and   
   >>Palau.   
      
   >Ah, sorry.  NMI _was_ in a "Compact of Free Association" with the US,   
   >but isn't anymore.  I forgot about the other ones.   
      
   I never read that they had a different status. From what I read, they   
   negotiated to remain a dependency.   
      
   >That's not uncommon; many smaller nations have their foreign relations   
   >(and defense) handled by a larger, friendly nation.  New Zealand does so   
   >for many Pacific island nations, for instance, and Switzerland does so   
   >for many more--including for the US in Cuba.   
      
   I just read that Switzerland finally became a UN member a few years ago.   
      
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