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|    Stephen Sprunk to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com    |
|    Re: more time zones    |
|    23 Jun 14 14:36:18    |
      From: stephen@sprunk.org              On 23-Jun-14 13:16, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:       > On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:27:25 AM UTC-4, Stephen Sprunk wrote:       >> Anyone born in the US is a US national. Those born _in a State_       >> get US citizenship as well. Those not born in a State may get       >> citizenship as well if an Act of Congress specifically grants it to       >> them, but it doesn't happen by default like nationality does.       >> (Those born outside the US to a US citizen or non-citizen national       >> also inherit the same status by law, with certain exceptions.)       >       > So, can someone from Samoa freely move to the US mainland, or do they       > have to be admitted under an immigration quota? (I thought Puerto       > Ricans can come and go as they please).              All US nationals, including non-citizen nationals, have the right to       live and work anywhere in the US.              > Once someone from Samoa comes to the US,              American Samoa is part of the US, so I assume you mean to a State (or       DC) here?              > do they have to formally apply for citizenship or do they get it       > automatically upon establishing residence?              US non-citizen nationals have to apply for US citizenship if they want       it; it's not automatic. They enter the process roughly at the same       stage as Legal Permanent Residents, though.              In fact, aside from a few screwy details, Legal Permanent Residents are       effectively the same thing as non-citizen nationals, and it would be       easier for everyone if we just combined the two statuses.              > Isn't that how Puerto Ricans get it?              Puerto Ricans now get citizenship at birth via an Act of Congress; folks       born in a State get citizenship at birth via the 14th Amd.              S              --       Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein       CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the       K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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