From: lfsheldon@gmail.com   
      
   On 6/22/2014 11:03 PM, Benjamin.Kubelsky wrote:   
      
   >> Yes: The pedestrian yielding to traffic is what makes it not jaywalking;   
   >> jaywalking is failure to yield to traffic with right of way.   
   >>   
   >   
   > As far as I'm concerned, yes. But the exception above is the law here.   
   > Oh there are other laws as Larry referenced that a pedestrian generally   
   > has the right of way over cars. That applies at intersections where   
   > there are crosswalks "either marked or unmarked" as the Driver's   
   > handbook has stated since 1978 and most likely before. If some dude   
   > steps off the curb at a corner where it is otherwise legal to cross, you   
   > are supposed to stop, even though the pedestrian didn't wait for it to   
   > be safe. Every so often, the local cops in various cities go on a   
   > "enforcement" spree, otherwise known as a ticket writing party, usually   
   > targeting particular intersections, often near a school. But sometimes,   
   > just an ordinary intersection where there has been a rash of injuries or   
   > deaths.   
      
   That "marked or unmarked" thing must be a California artifact--it sure   
   doesn't seem to be the case here in the flatlands.   
      
   The way I learned it in California in the early Stone Age was that every   
   intersection of streets has crosswalk EITHER where the white paint is OR   
   where the sight-line extensions of the sidewalks lie.   
      
   One artifact of California practice that strikes me funny now, but   
   wasn't when it first came to light.   
      
   In California the practice was that where ever there was a STOP sign or   
   a traffic light there was a "limit line" usually just before the   
   crosswalk.  In addition, in the case of a STOP sign, "STOP" was pained   
   on the pavement just short of the limit line.   
      
   Limit lines are rare and the pavement STOP are non-existent.   
      
   Which had my wife yelling at me a lot for blowing stop signs.   
      
   I finally figured out that for some unknown numbers of years I had not   
   bee stopping at STOP signs.  I had bee stopping at limit lines with   
   "STOP" painted nearby.   
      
   Limit lines are a mystery to people heret they have no idea what the   
   idea is.   
      
   A route that I have lately been running at least twice a week takes me   
   me past some prime examples.  If you can see the picture at   
   https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=far   
   am+and+dodge+omaha&aq=&sll=41.270705,-96.24366&sspn=0.238946,0.5   
   803&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Dodge+St+%26+Farnam+St,+Omaha,   
   Nebraska+68132&ll=41.259407,-96.000815&spn=0.00066,0.001031&   
   z=20   
   you will see a white car apparently stopped just short of a painted   
   crosswalk.  Behind it is a black car apparently stopped at the limit   
   line that the tree is blocking.   
      
   I learned that if (for what ever reason) I don't stop at the limit line   
   where the black car is, I am REQUIRED to continue to the (non-existent)   
   limit line at Dodge.   
      
   But time after time I see cars blow the limit line (sometimes after   
   pausing at it) and then ease down to where the white car is, sometimes   
   blocking the right turn onto Happy Hollow AND the no traffic lights   
   egress from 57th street.   
      
   --   
   Idioten aangeboden. Gratis af te halen.   
   h/t Dagelijkse Standaard   
      
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