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   Message 708 of 3,261   
   Adam H. Kerman to Nobody   
   Re: more time zones   
   23 Jun 14 02:17:30   
   
   From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Nobody  wrote:   
   >"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>Nobody  wrote:   
      
   >>>But of the American territories, residents of American Samoa are the   
   >>>only ones not citizens --   
      
   >>You forgot privately owned Swains Island, home to a dozen workers harvesting   
   >>coconuts. If any families are there, I'd be surprised.   
      
   >>>a distinction not visited upon Puerto   
   >>>Ricans, Guamians (?!), or US Virgin Islanders...   
      
   >>You made me look it up. US nationality did apply to Puerto Rico, Guam,   
   >>Virgin Islands, and Philipines in the past.   
      
   >>>I would propose that as US Nationals, not being allowed to vote or   
   >>>hold public office within the 50 states/DC is a tad more than just a   
   >>>"pretty minor difference"?   
      
   >>They carry a US passport, which makes no distinction between a citizen   
   >>and a national.   
      
   >You ignore the fact that Samoans, as other territorians, cannot vote   
   >or hold public office in the Republic?   
      
   You made the point; it's quoted above. I have no idea what other comment   
   you'd have me make about it. I don't know why they've never negotiated   
   to change their citizenship status.   
      
   The others must move to a state first in order to hold federal office   
   aside from delegate, as they can't do it whilst resident in a territory.   
      
   >>>American Samoans elect a delegate to your Congress, but that person   
   >>>cannot vote in the business of the House of Representatives AIUI.   
      
   >>Delegates vote in committee and have speaking privileges on the floor,   
   >>so they still have some power. They get convention delegates to presidential   
   >>nominating conventions.   
      
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