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   Message 705 of 3,261   
   Nobody to ahk@chinet.com   
   Re: more time zones   
   22 Jun 14 17:50:04   
   
   From: jock@soccer.com   
      
   On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 23:56:53 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Nobody  wrote:   
   >   
   >>But of the American territories, residents of American Samoa are the   
   >>only ones not citizens --   
   >   
   >You forgot privately owned Swains Island, home to a dozen workers harvesting   
   >coconuts. If any families are there, I'd be surprised.   
   >   
   >>a distinction not visited upon Puerto   
   >>Ricans, Guamians (?!), or US Virgin Islanders...   
   >   
   >You made me look it up. US nationality did apply to Puerto Rico, Guam,   
   >Virgin Islands, and Philipines in the past.   
   >   
   >>I would propose that as US Nationals, not being allowed to vote or   
   >>hold public office within the 50 states/DC is a tad more than just a   
   >>"pretty minor difference"?   
   >   
   >They carry a US passport, which makes no distinction between a citizen   
   >and a national.   
      
   You ignore the fact that Samoans, as other territorians, cannot vote   
   or hold public office in the Republic?   
      
   >   
   >>American Samoans elect a delegate to your Congress, but that person   
   >>cannot vote in the business of the House of Representatives AIUI.   
   >   
   >Delegates vote in committee and have speaking privileges on the floor,   
   >so they still have some power. They get convention delegates to presidential   
   >nominating conventions.   
      
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