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|    Benjamin.Kubelsky to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com    |
|    Re: Transportation trust fund broke, adv    |
|    21 Jun 14 23:14:52    |
      From: Benjamin.Kubelsky@verizon.net              On 6/21/2014 8:59 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:       > On Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:01:35 PM UTC-4, spsffan wrote:       >       >> Also, I daresay that fatalities were considered more of a "cost of       business" back in the 1950s than today. They used to just sweep up the mess       and say "too bad". Now, they actually report fatalities on the news!       >       > No, decades ago they certainly made the newspapers, including grisly       pictures of the crash scene.              They did in the case of spectacular, grisly multi-car crashes. The day       to day non-spectacular traffic fatalities (we must have several a day       here) most certainly were not broadcast on television news in the 1960s       and 1970s. I was here and I was watching. They may have had a two       sentence blip in the local paper on page 14, but it was a case of dog       bites man, not "Oh my God! Look A That!"              For similar media behavior, see, "lost children".              >       > Safety has been a big issue in the automotive world since at least the       1930s, maybe even earlier. A common theme for newspaper articles. Vehicles       were continually improved with better safety--back then it was improved tires       (early tires were terrible)       , better brakes, safety glass, and body construction. Roads were improved as       new ones were built or old ones rebuilt with better drainage, width,       visibility; but this was expensive. Driver education was improved--at some       point years ago they introduced        driver's ed in schools and AAA had courses to give professional instruction.        Enforcement was improved.       >       > By the way, transit companies lead the way in the 1920s for better       pedestrian safety, such as crossing in crosswalks and not jay walking. They       organized better safety for school children leaving school.       >       > But the flip side was that safety cost money and people didn't want to pay       it. Heck, in the google streetview example I posted above, those roads only       had a tiny curblike median strip until about 1980, when a 'jersey curb' was       installed. Today, lots        of busy highways have no median strip at all.       >       > Studebaker came out with seatbelts circa 1955. No one wanted them. Ever       after seatbelts were mandated in 1968, it took _years_ before motorists would       wear them, and even today plenty refuse to.       >       > In the roads newsgroup, you will see many vehemently demanding higher speed       limits. In the 1950s, they sued Robt Moses demanding he raise his parkway       speed limits. Moses lost.       >       > On crowded roads, higher speeds lead to more crashes of more severity.        Speed demons say the fatality rate is down, but ignore the crash rate or       damage cost.       >              The fatality rate per passenger mile is way lower than it was decades       ago. Owing to vastly increased passenger miles traveled (even with more       fatalities, far fewer per passenger mile traveled) and safer cars and       safer roads.              When traffic permits, speeds are up. I understand. I feel far, far safer       at 70 in my 1995 Toyota Camry than I would have in a 19 year old 1955       Chevy. Newer cars (AND light trucks) are far more agile, on average than       those from the era when the interstate highway system was designed. Just       the advances in tire technology go a long way towards that.              The fact that most people are idiots who don't know how to drive is not       relevant. This was always true. People don't change. Technology does.              Cheers,              DAvid              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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