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   Message 546 of 3,261   
   Stephen Furley to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com   
   Re: NWK EWR   
   10 Jun 14 22:38:08   
   
   From: srfurley@googlemail.com   
      
   "Jishnu Mukerji"  wrote in message   
   news:Jdmdnbu5Jo2faQvOnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
      
   On 6/9/2014 5:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >> On Monday, June 9, 2014 3:15:30 PM UTC-4, Jishnu Mukerji wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I don't think anyone really believes that the EWR station was a   
   >>> boondoggle. PANYNJ might want to operate it sufficiently incompetently   
   >>> to make it look like a boondoggle given their inherent anti-rail bias,   
   >>> and they may be succeeding at it at least with hancock.   
   >>   
   >> So, to clarify, do you feel that both the EWR station _and_ the PATH   
   >> extension to the airport should've been built?  If not both, which one?   
      
   >Eventually both. See what has been done in London, Paris, etc. It is a   
   >good idea to build main line station at the airport since that does   
   >enable air-rail integration. Air rail integration using Newark Penn   
   >Station as the hub, even with PATH to EWR is more or less a non-starter   
   >IMHO. But mind you.... just IMHO.   
      
   Why do you say that?   
      
   I certainly wouldn't want to hold up London as an example to follow; at   
   least as far as Heathrow goes, it's a complete mess.  Gatwick is better,   
   Stanstead can be reasonable depending on what part of London you're coming   
   from, but is a pain from many areas.  Luton still needs a bus trip even   
   after the new Luton Airport Parkway station was built.  London City has   
   improved considerably since the Docklands Light Railway was extended there.   
   Southend is now classed as a London airport, but it's a long way from   
   central London.   
      
   > Regarding just the EWR station, do you feel the monorail was a good idea,   
   > or would some other transport mode been as cost effective and given as   
   > good a service?   
      
   Ideally, the EWR station should have been built in the area around the   
   Marriott hotel on a shoefly and connected to the three terminal using   
   travelators. Monorail was a bad idea. PATH should have been built to the   
   terminal from the getgo.   
      
   > Any thoughts on the service between LIRR-Jamaica and JFK airport?  Good as   
   > built, or would you have preferred a different plan?   
      
   I would have prefered direct service to Penn Station over the currently   
   abandoned Rockaway branch ROW of LIRR.   
      
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