From: otterpower@xhotmail.com
On 5/17/2014 2:14 PM, conklin wrote:
> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote in message
> news:ll86mr$bon$3@news.albasani.net...
>> conklin wrote:
>>>
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote in message
>>> news:ll5r60$1i7$2@news.albasani.net...
>>>> conklin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote in message
>>>>> news:ll5js2$iav$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>>>> conklin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4992f897-fa17-41c7-b650-e1b6c2448af6@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.mta.info/news/2014/05/15/metro-north-announce
-sweeping-series-safety-reforms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Automated Track Inspection: Metro-North has developed a comprehensive
>>>>>>> automated track inspection plan. This plan includes the use of track
>>>>>>> geometry measurements, machine vision track inspection, and rail
>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>> defect testing. These efforts will augment the visual inspections
>>>>>>> conducted
>>>>>>> by the railroad. Metro-North is purchasing an autonomous track
>>>>>>> monitoring
>>>>>>> system to be mounted on passenger rail cars, to provide continuous
>>>>>>> information about the condition of the right-of-way. The railroad will
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> obtain a dedicated track geometry vehicle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what is needed for those 120 car oil trains. They need a
>>>>>>> sensors
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> every oil train.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And do what, exactly, George, that automated track inspection doesn't
>>>>>> achieve when performed at regular intervals? You're completely insane.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you ever bother reading what you post? Here is part of your
>>>>> reference:
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Metro-North is purchasing an autonomous track monitoring system to be
>>>>> mounted on passenger rail cars, to provide continuous
>>>>> information about the condition of the right-of-way.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>> You say that is ok for Metro-North, but BAD for oil trains.
>>>>
>>>> At no point have I said it was ok for Metro North.
>>>>
>>>> I'm saying that track monitoring may get the track repaired before
>>>> subsequent trains travel on that route, but they don't get the track
>>>> repaired
>>>> for the train equipped with track-monitoring equipment.
>>>>
>>>>> Oil trains need
>>>>> the track monitoring system to be mounted on each train to provide
>>>>> continuous information about the right-of-way. No exceptions. Just
>>>>> like
>>>>> Metro-North is going to do.
>>>>
>>>> Well, know, what you want is the train ahead of the oil train to have
>>>> monitored track conditions, so that the oil train moves over
>>>> newly-repaired
>>>> track. But that's stupid because track doesn't require monitoring before
>>>> every single fucking train.
>>>
>>> If Metro-North uses track montoring equipment on each train, then oil
>>> trians
>>> should do that too.
>>
>> George, please use your words to form a coherent thought and explain
>> exactly what it is you want to accomplish for the good of the railroad.
>
> If certain safety programs are required for Metro-North to keep from having
> accidents, then oil trains need the same equipment, etc. You refuse to
> recognize that.
>
>
Especially when the regulators can't even assemble and report the
statistics accurately:
"US State Department Corrects Keystone Pipeline Study Errors
TRP
The State Department on Friday corrected several errors it made in a key
study evaluating the impact of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline,
including an understatement of how many people could be killed on
railroad tracks if the project were rejected and oil traffic by rail
increased.
The department said, however, these corrections had “no impact” on the
integrity of the conclusions of the January report, which played down
potential environmental consequences of TransCanada Corp’s (NYSE:TRP)
Canada-Texas project.
The Obama administration has not decided whether to approve the project yet.
The January report determined that blocking the controversial pipeline
could increase Oil train traffic and lead to an additional 49 injuries
and 6 deaths per year, mostly by using historical injury and fatality
statistics for railways.
That finding was a small element of a broader examination of how
building the pipeline could impact climate change, endangered species,
quality of life and other issues.
But the report mistakenly used a forecast for three months of expected
accidents rather than full-year figures, officials said. The correct
estimate of deaths should be roughly 4X as large; between 18 and 30
fatalities per year.
Officials also revised a footnoted reference to how much electricity
would be needed to power pumping stations along the route of the
pipeline that would link Canada’s Oil sands region to Texas refineries.
Running at something less than full capacity, the pumping stations would
not require as much electricity, and so tax power plants less than
originally reported."
--http://www.livetradingnews.com/us-state-department-corrects-ke
stone-pipeline-study-errors-53855.htm
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