From: jock@soccer.com   
      
   On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 19:30:59 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Larry Sheldon  wrote:   
   >>On 6/7/2014 11:54 PM, Benjamin.Kubelsky wrote:   
   >   
   >>>I could be wrong, but it seems that roads of newer design are safer in   
   >>>service and per vehicle and vehicle mile than something like the Arroyo   
   >>>Seco Parkway, formerly known as the Pasadena Freeway, previously known   
   >>>at the Arroyo Seco Parkway.   
   >   
   >>I was there, but didn't have the forethought to take notes....The   
   >>original Arroyo Seco Parkway was a frightening thing from the backseat   
   >>of a 1939 Plymouth Business Coupe*.   
   >   
   >>The speed limit was, I think, 45 MPH.  The "off ramps" were tight button   
   >>hook turns up to a sign.  The "on ramps" were tight button hook turns   
   >>down to a STOP sign at the edge of the Big Road--you "merged" from a   
   >>standing start. . . .   
   >   
   >Tight ramps aren't a problem in any way; just slow the fuck down.   
   >Lack of merging lanes is a bad idea. Nothing wrong with 45 mph and   
   >narrow lanes, but I'm sure idiots tried to drive faster.   
      
   In on-ramps they are.  I invite you to visit Bellingham, WA and use   
   the very tightly-curved ramp from the Guide Meridian/SR 539/Meridian   
   Street south-bound onto I-5 south-bound (which at that point is   
   aligned east-west).   
      
   Drivers have to "floor it" to join the flow, after three very close   
   90-degree right curves, though I-5  is max. 60 mph in the area.   
      
   That stretch through Bellingham dates as some of the early interstate   
   upgrade of US 99 from the Canadian border south.   
      
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