From: ce11son@yahoo.ca   
      
   On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:32:36 -0500, Stephen Sprunk   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 21-May-14 01:10, Glen Labah wrote:   
   >> In article ,   
   >> "conklin"  wrote:   
   >>> would make more sense to encourage people to avoid such situations.   
   >>> As for your comment about dental records, I also wonder bout these   
   >>> 4-story apartment complexes they are putting up now entirely made   
   >>> of wood!!!  They look like bonfires ready to burn to me.   
   >>   
   >> It's getting worse too.  There was an article in our local paper   
   >> recently about new construction methods allowing for taller buildings   
   >> made entirely from wood.   
   >   
   >Yuck.  At least around here, I see wood for 1-3 story buildings and   
   >concrete for 4+ story buildings.  Building codes also require elevators   
   >for 4+ story residential buildings, so apartment buildings rarely go   
   >past 3.  (Elevators are required for even 2-story commercial/retail   
   >buildings, so you tend to see either 1-story strip malls or 5+ story   
   >towers.)   
   >   
   >> At least around here they are now required to have sprinkler systems,   
   >> but that doesn't help a fire fueled from an outside source too much,   
   >   
   >I've never heard of sprinklers actually stopping a fire, but I lived in   
   >a few such places and had to evacuate several times per year because   
   >some idiot used their sprinkler for a coat hanger and broke it open,   
   >which triggered the building fire alarm.   
   >   
   >> and water isn't really good at putting out oil train fires anyway.   
   >> They need massive foam sprayers, but those are generally only   
   >> available at large airports.  It's been one of the discussions in our   
   >> local paper: no fire department has the equipment needed to put out a   
   >> fire from this stuff, except the Port of Portland Airport Fire   
   >> Department, and they aren't really that close to the line with the   
   >> most oil traffic except in one small area.   
   >   
   >Same problem with oil traveling by truck.  Heck, it's probably easier to   
   >get foam from the airport to a rail fire than to a truck fire because a   
   >truck fire will cause severe traffic congestion.   
   >   
   >Arguably the same problem for oil traveling by pipeline, but pipeline   
   >spills rarely seem to result in fires, just a lot of ground/water pollution.   
   >   
   >I know diesel is close to non-flammable (you can actually use it to put   
   >_out_ a fire), but gasoline and kerosene are highly flammable;   
   >   
   Kerosene/paraffin is not generally highly flammable (but the name   
   covers a range of distillates with flashpoints from c.37-65deg C); you   
   can usually do the same trick of throwing a lighted match into it as   
   you can with diesel to demonstrate that it stops the match burning.   
   Like diesel, it is when vapourised or in a mist that it becomes   
   dangerous.   
      
   >since   
   >crude oil contains all of those, though, what is the resulting risk level?   
   >   
   >S   
      
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