From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >On 11-May-14 08:43, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>On 28-Apr-14 01:29, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>>>On 27-Apr-14 17:44, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
      
   >>>>>>As far as fare readers, it's silly to believe you'd need   
   >>>>>>fewer with POP.   
      
   >>>>>You don't need _any_ fare readers with POP unless you've also   
   >>>>>been duped by all the smartcard hype; just use little slips of   
   >>>>>paper, as transit agencies have been doing for over a century.   
      
   >>>>I'm just reacting to your claim, above, that more fare readers   
   >>>>are used with gated versus POP.   
      
   >>>Barrier systems inherently require fare readers of some sort, even   
   >>>if they're simple token systems.   
      
   >>It's ridiculous of you to re-define a token-accepting turnstile as a   
   >>reader.   
      
   >What, exactly, do you think the turnstile is doing before it unlocks the   
   >rotating bar?  It's validating your fare.   
      
   It's a mechanical system; never heard a coin/token validator called a   
   reader. Nice backpedal there.   
      
   >To read your statement any other way implies that POP requires   
   >smartcards, and while it's obvious you don't really understand how POP   
   >works, I can't believe you're truly _that_ ignorant.   
      
   No, that's your reading comprehension problem. The discussion began with   
   electronic fare collection. You insisted on making a comparison to POP with   
   paper receipts, which was changing the discussion away from electronic   
   fare payment. POP is just the requirement that the passenger prove he   
   paid the correct fare. It can be done electronically or with paper.   
      
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