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   Stephen Sprunk to Adam H. Kerman   
   Re: Getting back to PTC   
   27 Apr 15 10:18:34   
   
   From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 23-Apr-15 14:13, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >> On 23-Apr-15 12:44, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>> Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>> On 22-Apr-15 17:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>> I'm using the term "socialism" correctly to refer to   
   >>>>> nationalization of public utilities, ...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is more correctly referred to as "state socialism" (or   
   >>>> "national socialism", prior to the Nazis appropriating that   
   >>>> label for what was really fascism).  Plain "socialism" refers   
   >>>> to the _workers_ owning the means of production, not the   
   >>>> state.   
   >>>   
   >>> Dude. The workers themselves owning the means of production is   
   >>> one form of social ownership, but it is not an exclusive form of   
   >>> social ownership.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nationalization is another form.   
   >>   
   >> Specifically, the form called "state socialism".   
   >   
   > I'm not calling it that, and you're arguing semantics.   
      
   It's one thing to use the wrong term out of ignorance, which has now   
   been cured.   
      
   If you deliberately choose to use the wrong term despite knowing the   
   correct one, then you forfeit the right to complain about others'   
   mistakes--a favorite pastime of yours, it should be noted.   
      
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