From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   >On 24-Apr-15 14:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   >>>On 24-Apr-15 08:25, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>Charles Ellson wrote:   
      
   >>>>>If you are ill beyond self-help you become a medical liability   
   >>>>>upon others   
      
   >>>>... An injured or ill person can receive life-saving care (but   
   >>>>not full treatment) in a hospital emergency room without ability   
   >>>>to pay, but that's a condition of federal law for receiving   
   >>>>payments through socialized medicine or having received past   
   >>>>grants for new facilities or having a nonprofit tax status.   
      
   >>>... which pretty much every hospital has received at some point, so   
   >>>in practice it is a liability upon society.   
      
   >>That's a hell of a lot of cost shifting. Any medical provider   
   >>accepting Medicare must accept Medicaid. My state tends to be years   
   >>behind in paying providers. You're not acknowledging reality even   
   >>when the patient is receiving socialized medicine.   
      
   >And why do we have Medicare, Medicaid, etc.? Because as a society, we   
   >accept that we have a moral obligation to provide certain services to   
   >those who are unable to provide them for themselves, in particular the   
   >elderly, the disabled and children. . . .   
      
   You may have noticed that Medicare isn't means tested, so that's simply   
   not true.   
      
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