From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >On 23-Apr-15 12:44, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>On 22-Apr-15 17:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
      
   >>>>I'm using the term "socialism" correctly to refer to   
   >>>>nationalization of public utilities, ...   
      
   >>>That is more correctly referred to as "state socialism" (or   
   >>>"national socialism", prior to the Nazis appropriating that label   
   >>>for what was really fascism).  Plain "socialism" refers to the   
   >>>_workers_ owning the means of production, not the state.   
      
   >>Dude. The workers themselves owning the means of production is one   
   >>form of social ownership, but it is not an exclusive form of social   
   >>ownership.   
      
   >>Nationalization is another form.   
      
   >Specifically, the form called "state socialism".   
      
   I'm not calling it that, and you're arguing semantics.   
      
   The rest deleted as irrelevant to anything I mentioned earlier.   
      
   --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03   
    * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)