From: j.albert@snet.net   
      
   On 8/23/14 10:46 PM, dpeltier@my-deja.com wrote:   
   > John, what would be the procedure you would follow if you climbed on board   
   > a train that had both hand brakes and automatic brakes set, and had been   
   > sitting unattended for a while? Would you release the train brakes and   
   > re-apply them before knocking off the hand brakes? Or do you assume that   
   > the train brakes are still holding the train, and immediately start   
   > knocking off hand brakes?   
      
   Let's see....   
      
   Assuming engines are running and independent is applied, and automatic   
   air brake (train air) is applied in a service application:   
      
   Release the air brakes on the train.   
      
   Next release the hand brakes.   
      
   If for some reason the trains was to move with hand brakes release, you   
   then "have the air" to use to stop it...   
   (Train would have to be on a substantial grade for this to happen).   
      
   Once the hand brakes are released and brake pipe is charged, do an   
   "application and release" and check brakes on/off on the rear car.   
      
   If that test is good, should be ready to go.   
      
   (Note: this assumes brake pipe was charged and brakes were previously   
   applied in a service application. If train had no air in brake pipe, and   
   had been sitting for some period of time, I believe rules now require   
   that train be charged, brakes applied, entire train walked for both   
   application & release before proceeding).   
      
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