From: jock@soccer.com
On Sat, 03 May 2014 22:43:09 +0100, Charles Ellson
wrote:
>On Sat, 03 May 2014 14:31:41 -0500, Stephen Sprunk
> wrote:
>
>>On 02-May-14 22:08, mroberds@att.net wrote:
>>> Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>>> Somebody got a pointer to a picture of the "zig-zag" thing?
>>>
>>> A moderately well-known crosswalk in London, as it appeared in 2006:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abbey_Road_London.JPG
>>
>>OTOH, this is what you'll typically get in the US, at least in areas
>>that take pedestrian safety seriously (most don't):
>>
>>http://emersongarfield.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/curbbump.jpg
>>
>>The bump allows crossing pedestrians to easily see traffic before they
>>step off the curb/sidewalk and vice versa yet has less impact on parking
>>than your zig-zag example, which wastes a shocking amount of pavement.
>>
>Different variations are also used in the UK, here's one in Scotland
>(Grantown, Morayshire) which is about half-way between having just the
>step-out and a full length no parking at all within x yards of the
>crossing design :-
>https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.330573,-3.608512,3a,90y,34.63
,81.87t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srOJfIwPJsdYtM7RxjHyLLA!2e0
>[http://tinyurl.com/pvbxdjv]
>
>There is a degree of individual tailoring, in this case also acting as
>a physical and psychological choke point to discourage drivers from
>passing over the following junction too fast and delay the
>subconscious temptation to speed up as they enter the more open area
>of the town square. The latter is possibly why the step-out unusually
>goes out further than the edge of the marked parking areas which
>interleave with the protected area.
>
>OTOH this one in Bushey in southern England :-
>https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.634962,-0.342757,3a,49.4y,135
37h,82.1t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6P4iLO3Qw1i1gK4dJVEa2A!2e0
>[http://tinyurl.com/nulbm9e]
Complete with pedestrian trying to cross immediately outside the
fenced zone...
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