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   Peter Schleifer to stephen@sprunk.org   
   Re: 30th St renaming for Rep Gray moving   
   03 Aug 14 19:07:40   
   
   From: pschleif@speakeasy.org   
      
   On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:09:14 -0500, Stephen Sprunk   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 02-Aug-14 19:18, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >> On Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:03:07 PM UTC-4, Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   >>> Cops walking/driving a beat increases the _perception_ that   
   >>> criminals will be caught, changing the subconscious risk/reward   
   >>> analysis. Just as important, though, are the detectives who   
   >>> investigate crimes and _actually_ catch the offenders.   
   >>   
   >> Cops are only one part of the issue.   
   >>   
   >> Another part is public policy.  NYC has an aggressive stop 'n frisk   
   >> policy, Phila refuses to go that route.   I submit that stop 'n frisk   
   >> in NYC acts as a deterrent.   
   >   
   >It's a deterrent alright--a deterrent against minorities trusting the   
   >police because they're profiled and harassed even though the police's   
   >own statistics show it has absolutely no effect on crime.   
      
   Stop and Frisk was an issue in last year's NYC mayoral race - the   
   winner and the police commissioner he appointed opposed it, but stop   
   and frisk rates dropped dramatically even before the election in   
   response to a court order.  Crime rates have continued to drop,   
      
   Now the emphasis is on going after people who are actually committing   
   crimes, even minor ones, which has led to the current controversy over   
   someone who was selling untaxed cigarettes dying while being   
   restrained by police using a choke hold (which is against department   
   policy).   
   --   
   Peter Schleifer   
   "Ignorance is easy and you get it for free"   
      
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