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   Message 269 of 3,261   
   Adam H. Kerman to conklin   
   Re: Oil Trains Trigger Local Warning   
   09 May 14 14:46:36   
   
   From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   conklin  wrote:   
   >"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>conklin  wrote:   
   >>>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>>>conklin  wrote:   
   >>>>>"Wayne Hines"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>On Thu, 08 May 2014 08:44:50 -0400, conklin wrote:   
      
   >>>>>>>The press is reporting today that the Feds are in fact going to give   
   >>>>>>>those living on the routes of trains hauling crude oil some warning   
   >>>>>>>of the dangers they might face.  Or at least that seems the intent.   
   >>>>>>>Given the profit involved to the carriers, I am wondering why the   
   >>>>>>>Feds don't also insist on track upgrdes on those routes.   
      
   >>>>>>Perhaps there is no need for track upgrades on those routes.   
      
   >>>>>Well, tell that to Lynchburg, VA....the track was fine.  There was no   
   >>>>>accident.  It was all imagination.   
      
   >>>>I must have missed the imaginary news story. Could we wait till there's   
   >>>>an authoritative report backing up your allegations?   
      
   >>>You mean give warning to local authorities?  You must not read very much.   
      
   >>No, I mean I'd like to wait until there is a report of track failure   
   >>before I post on Usenet that it's track failure, you know, just what   
   >>I wrote.   
      
   >>>Today the NY Times points out that 10 of the 13 cars that derailed  and   
   >>>burned in Lynchburg, VA, were CPC-1232s, or the newer cars.  And that   
   >>>includes the car which dumped 30,000 gallons of crude oil into the   
   >>>James river.  There was also an earlier accident in which the "new"   
   >>>standard cars also failed.  So it looks like even cars built under   
   >>>the improved standards are ineffective in preventing spills and fires.   
   >>>I doubt the train was traveling very fast in downtown Lynchburg either.   
      
   >>Tankers aren't puncture-proof. So, you want all this oil moved by truck,   
   >>which has a far worse safety record?   
      
   >I believe that even better cars + upgraded track.  The old track standards   
   >were ok for moving coal, but not for oil.   
      
   What, pray tell, is wrong with the standards? Dear gawd, you don't know   
   what you're babbling about.   
      
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