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   Message 268 of 3,261   
   conklin to Adam H. Kerman   
   Re: Oil Trains Trigger Local Warning   
   09 May 14 10:05:58   
   
   From: nilknocgeo@earthlink.net   
      
   "Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message   
   news:lkikho$74a$1@news.albasani.net...   
   > conklin  wrote:   
   >>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>>conklin  wrote:   
   >>>>"Wayne Hines"  wrote:   
   >>>>>On Thu, 08 May 2014 08:44:50 -0400, conklin wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>The press is reporting today that the Feds are in fact going to give   
   >>>>>>those living on the routes of trains hauling crude oil some warning of   
   >>>>>>the dangers they might face.  Or at least that seems the intent.   
   >>>>>>Given   
   >>>>>>the profit involved to the carriers, I am wondering why the Feds don't   
   >>>>>>also insist on track upgrdes on those routes.   
   >   
   >>>>>Perhaps there is no need for track upgrades on those routes.   
   >   
   >>>>Well, tell that to Lynchburg, VA....the track was fine.  There was no   
   >>>>accident.  It was all imagination.   
   >   
   >>>I must have missed the imaginary news story. Could we wait till there's   
   >>>an authoritative report backing up your allegations?   
   >   
   >>You mean give warning to local authorities?  You must not read very much.   
   >   
   > No, I mean I'd like to wait until there is a report of track failure   
   > before   
   > I post on Usenet that it's track failure, you know, just what I wrote.   
   >   
   >>Today the NY Times points out that 10 of the 13 cars that derailed  and   
   >>burned in Lynchburg, VA, were CPC-1232s, or the newer cars.  And that   
   >>includes the car which dumped 30,000 gallons of crude oil into the James   
   >>river.  There was also an earlier accident in which the "new" standard   
   >>cars   
   >>also failed.  So it looks like even cars built under the improved   
   >>standards   
   >>are ineffective in preventing spills and fires.  I doubt the train was   
   >>traveling very fast in downtown Lynchburg either.   
   >   
   > Tankers aren't puncture-proof. So, you want all this oil moved by truck,   
   > which has a far worse safety record?   
      
   I believe that even better cars + upgraded track.  The old track standards   
   were ok for moving coal, but not for oil.   
      
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