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   Sancho Panza to Stephen Sprunk   
   Re: Penna giving more authority to cops    
   14 May 14 19:20:48   
   
   From: otterpower@xhotmail.com   
      
   On 5/14/2014 6:22 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   > On 14-May-14 15:13, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >> While this pertains to highways, it can have an adverse impact on   
   >> railroad passengers and ordinary pedestrians, too.  Under the new   
   >> law, you can be arrested even if you're not carrying contraband.   
   >   
   > You are grossly exaggerating this.   
   >   
   > This law only criminalized having a "secret compartment" in your vehicle   
   > that the police can establish (beyond a reasonable doubt) is "intended"   
   > to be used to carry contraband.  Basically, the goal is to be able to   
   > nail smugglers on return trips when the compartment is empty--assuming   
   > you're not smuggling things in both directions.   
   >   
   >> The 'probable cause' to be stopped is made easy, too.   
   >   
   > You are grossly exaggerating this as well.   
   >   
   > Cops never needed "probable cause" to stop you; they only need   
   > "reasonable suspicion".  And the standard for "probable cause" hasn't   
   > changed one bit; all that this law does is allow warrantless searches of   
   > a vehicle when the cops have probable cause, which many other states and   
   > the federal govt already allow--and many courts in PA also already   
   > allowed due to existing PA law not being clear on the matter.   
      
   In essence, having a hidden compartment to safeguard valuables like   
   money or jewelry while traveling is now a crime. What next, ehyes   
   looking left or right or up or down?   
      
      
      
      
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