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|    Larry Sheldon to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com    |
|    Re: Set-out Pullmans--energy supply and     |
|    15 Apr 14 18:35:32    |
      From: lfsheldon@gmail.com              On 4/15/2014 9:12 AM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:       > questions on Pullman operation...       >       > In the days of Pullman travel, it was common to set out a Pullman on       > a siding when the train stopped in the middle of the night.       > Passengers could stay in their berths until morning. The car would       > be picked up on the next run. (Likewise, passengers could board a       > Pullman in the evening, which would actually leave in the middle of       > the night). These services continued until Amtrak, and even Amtrak       > may have had a few.       >       > In the old days, power for lights and a/c was provided by batteries       > charged by generators attached to the wheels. Steam from the       > locomotive provided heat. Can one presume that every set-out siding       > had steam and electric lines to support set-out sleepers?       >       > What about special events? Sometimes a fleet of Pullmans would       > arrive at a major sports event, political convention, etc.       > Passengers would use their Pullman cars as an hotel for the event.       > Again, were their electric and steam lines available for a whole       > fleet of cars?       >       > Now, the tricky question. On old trains, restroom waste was dumped       > directly onto the tracks. While the train was moving that wasn't a       > problem, but it wasn't good in a station. Indeed, signs were on       > toilets asking not to flush in a station. So, what about set out       > Pullmans, which would be in a spot for at least several hours?       > Passengers have to go. Without other means, in the morning the       > siding would not be a pleasant place, especially in the summer.              My recollections of the old Third and Townsend station is that the       tracks (the line dead-ended there--trains ran engine-first in, stopped       and unloaded, engine was disconnected and pulled away a bit, yard engine       and crew pulled the train out, the engine ran down to the engine area,       train (if not taken to a service area) pushed back in and the last car       (was first car) could be connected to steam, power, and air-pipe. I       don't have specific memory, but I think the toilets were       locked--passengers were probably expected to use the station facilities.        I do think I remember on long runs (as opposed to the commuter trains)       the toilets were locked as a station as a stop was approached.              http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/fmc8.jpg                     --       Idioten aangeboden. Gratis af te halen.       h/t Dagelijkse Standaard              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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