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   conklin to conklin   
   Re: more fuzzy math, was National FREIGH   
   07 Apr 14 15:03:58   
   
   From: nilknocgeo@earthlink.net   
      
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   news:e5920dc5-988f-464c-ac2b-f7f475fffd8b@googlegroups.com...   
   On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:37:00 AM UTC-4, conklin wrote:   
      
   > Amtrak DOES need the money.  Freight service used to always subsdize   
   > passenger service in the "good old days."   
      
   No, passenger service was profitable in its own right in the old days.  "The   
   Twilight of the Passenger Train" discusses the economics in detail.   
      
   If a passenger train wasn't making money, the railroad would discontinue it   
   (presuming the ICC allowed it).   
      
   At the end of WW II, the railroads felt confident enough in the future of   
   passenger service that they invested millions of stockholder dollars in the   
   purchase of new passenger equipment.  Some railroads kept buying equipment   
   into the 1960s.  They would not have invested in something that lost money.   
      
   Obviously, conditions varied by territory and time frame.  Mid western and   
   western roads did better than eastern roads.   
      
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