From: jishnu@nospam.verizon.net   
      
   On 4/30/2016 1:19 PM, John Levine wrote:   
   >> I keep wondering what the systems are going to offer for those   
   >> of us who do NOT want any such "feature" & just want a card NOT   
   >> linked to anything.   
   >   
   > Somewhere in the SEPTA discussion it said that SEPTA will sell you a   
   > card you can reload with cash, for people who don't have or don't want   
   > to use other cards.  Even though TfL lets you use bank credit and   
   > debit cards, they have no plans to phase out Oyster, and for some   
   > applications (like senior discounts for us over 60's) only an Oyster   
   > will work.   
   >   
   > I have to say that using my US AmEx card to touch in and out in the   
   > London Underground was pretty cool.  Each day I got one charge for   
   > whatever I'd used that day.   
   >   
      
   It will take us decades, if ever, in the NY City area to get anywhere   
   remotely close to the seamlessness of fare collection in multi mode   
   operation that is available today in the TfL system in London.   
      
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