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   Stephen Sprunk to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com   
   Re: Bypassing a double red home interloc   
   12 Mar 16 22:28:38   
   
   From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 10-Mar-16 20:23, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   > So, I see a train stopped at a red over red signal, a home signal at   
   > an interlocking (no number plate).   
      
   As previously discussed, the number of heads is irrelevant; red, red/red   
   and red/red/red are all either Stop and Stay (if number plate absent) or   
   Stop and Proceed (if number plate present).   
      
   > The train sat there for a few minutes, then slowly moved ahead   
   > (presumably at restricted speed). There was a railroad work truck at   
   > the switch.   
   >   
   > Presumably the train had authority to do so.   
   >   
   > Anyway, what does it take for a train to move against a red signal?   
   > Is a radio transmission from the dispatcher enough?   
      
   NORAC Rule 241. Passing a Stop Signal   
   To pass a Stop Signal, a train must have verbal permission of the   
   Dispatcher (or Operator when authorized by the Dispatcher). Permission   
   must not be given or accepted until the train has stopped at the signal.   
   A member of the crew must contact the Dispatcher or Operator and follow   
   his instructions.   
      
   a. Giving Permission to Pass   
   Before giving permission to pass the Stop Signal, the Dispatcher (or   
   Operator) must determine that:   
      
   1. Affected appliances are properly positioned. If the position of a   
   switch cannot be determined, the route must be inspected.   
   2. No opposing or conflicting movements have been authorized.   
   3. Blocking devices have been applied to protect against opposing   
   movements whenever the Stop Signal involved governs entrance to a track   
   where Rule 261 is in effect.   
      
   The Dispatcher (or Operator) must give permission to pass a Stop Signal   
   in the following manner:   
   “No. 5316 engine 4129 pass Stop Signal on No. 2 track at Rare and   
   proceed east to No. 1 track.”   
   The receiving employee must repeat this permission and the Dispatcher or   
   Operator must then confirm it.   
      
   b. Movement After Permission Has Been Confirmed   
   After permission has been confirmed, the train must operate at   
   Restricted Speed until the entire train has cleared all interlocking or   
   spring switches and the leading wheels have:   
      
   1. Passed a more favorable fixed signal,   
   OR   
   2. Entered non-signaled DCS territory.   
   OR   
   3. Entered Rule 562 territory with a Form D authorizing Rule 563.   
      
   In CSS territory, trains with operative cab signals must not increase   
   their speed until they have run one train length or 500 feet (whichever   
   distance is greater) past a location where a more favorable cab signal   
   was received.   
      
   GCOR Rule 9.12 Stop Indications   
   9.12.1 CTC Territory   
   At a signal displaying a Stop indication, if no conflicting movement is   
   evident, the train will be governed as follows:   
   • A crew member must immediately contact the control operator, unless   
   the train is:   
   - Within track and time limits   
   or   
   - Entering track and time limits from any point other than either end of   
   track and time limits.   
   • Before authorizing the train to proceed, the control operator must   
   know that the route is properly lined and no conflicting movement is   
   occupying or authorized to enter the track between that signal and the   
   next absolute signal governing movement or the end of CTC where applicable.   
   • When the train receives these instructions, “After stopping, (train)   
   at (location) has authority to pass signal displaying Stop indication,”   
   specifying the route where applicable. The train must move at restricted   
   speed.   
      
      
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