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   rcp27g@gmail.com to Stephen Sprunk   
   Re: Home signal--flashing green over red   
   12 Feb 16 01:47:38   
   
   On Friday, 12 February 2016 06:49:39 UTC+1, Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   > On 11-Feb-16 09:21, rcp27g@gmail.com wrote:   
   > > On Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:24:33 UTC+1, Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   > >> 12.5kV means four times as much current as 2x25kV, but if they   
   > >> think their decrepit infrastructure can handle the load, c'est la   
   > >> vie.   
   > >    
   > > As I pointed out elsewhere in the thread, DB (German railways)   
   > > operate significantly higher power trains (200 mph ICE3 units) under   
   > > 15 kV 16.7 Hz catenery.   
   >    
   > Nope.  Acela loses to ICE3 on every metric _except_ raw power:   
   >    
   > 		Acela		ICE3   
   > Power		9,200 kW	8,000 kW   
   > Weight		565t		409t   
   > Power/Weight	16.2 kW/t	19.6 kW/t   
   > Seats		304		403   
   > Power/Seat	30.3 kW/seat	19.9 kW/seat   
   > Top Speed	266 km/h	320 km/h   
      
   The Acela figures are for a set, which has two power cars with two parallel   
   power trains.  The ICE3 figures are for a single unit with a single power   
   train, but the ICE3s commonly run in pairs, so the numbers for a whole train   
   of 2xICE3 will be 16 MW,    
   806 seats, 818 t.   
      
   Robin   
      
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