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|    Stephen Sprunk to Stephen Sprunk    |
|    Re: Home signal--flashing green over red    |
|    18 Jan 16 21:44:18    |
      From: stephen@sprunk.org              On 18-Jan-16 20:06, Stephen Sprunk wrote:       > On 17-Jan-16 19:58, Clark F Morris wrote:       >> It does according to an engineer I heard give a presentation to the       >> Electric Railroaders Association, New York Division over 25 years       >> ago. It has to do with how much power can be transmitted and at 25       >> cycles for given voltage more power can be transmitted than at 60       >> cycles. Thus 25 KV is needed to transmit the same power at 60       >> cycles as is transmitted by 12 KV at 25 cycles. I have seen it       >> discussed but also can't find where and I don't have the time to       >> dig up the ERA presentation. I think his name was Harry Rappaport       >> but its been a few years since I last looked at the presentation.       >       > Google can't find anything about that presentation aside from       > similar claims here by you back in 2009, 2011 and 2013--and several       > folks (who all seem more knowledgeable than I) questioning its       > veracity.       >       > In particular, one said that _maybe_ it was true long ago when       > motors ran at the catenary frequency but definitely not today because       > modern trains put the power through a rectifier (and often an       > inverter) before it gets to the motors.              After a bit more (re)reading, the issue was that doubling frequency       squares the power factor; however, modern trains are so close to unity       (due to better rectifiers) that it's effectively irrelevant now.              S              --       Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein       CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the       K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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