From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 10-Dec-15 17:43, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >> On 09-Dec-15 14:54, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>> or the country in which the alleged criminal is in has to recognize   
   >>> US authority to prosecute and extradite.   
   >   
   >> That's why such criminals run to (or stay in) countries lacking   
   >> extradition treaties with the US or like-minded European countries.   
   >>   
   >> OTOH, US law permits "extraordinary rendition", which amounts to   
   >> invading an uncooperative country, kidnapping the suspect and then   
   >> bringing them to the US for trial.  If the country discovers it,   
   >> there may be diplomatic consequences, but they'll often cover it up   
   >> instead because they actually agree and just can't be _seen_ to   
   >> agree.   
   >   
   > I thought that meant we didn't bring them to US soil in which we   
   > would have to subject them to due process.   
      
   It seems that some folks missed their connecting flight at Gitmo,   
   probably because Congress has prohibited operating one.   
      
   Despite all the whining about due process, US civilian courts have a   
   higher conviction rate for terrorists and war criminals than military   
   tribunals, so we want them on US soil--at least if we really intend to   
   put them on trial.  Merely torturing/killing them we can do anywhere.   
      
   >>> We're not going to prosecute crimes from Maoist China or   
   >>> Stalinist USSR.   
   >>   
   >> That's not likely, no, but we do still prosecute Nazis when they   
   >> get caught traveling to/through a country with extradition   
   >> treaties; ditto for modern war criminals.  We rarely go hunting for   
   >> them, but if they are stupid enough to stick their heads up, we'll   
   >> happily lop them off.   
   >   
   > No one particularly important is still alive. We just have some   
   > prosecutors upset that they never got a chance to prosecute one.   
   > Anyway, they really can be prosecuted in Germany or Poland, so   
   > there's no need for them to be tried here.   
      
   As stated, the same is true of modern war criminals--unless they are   
   still in power and thus have diplomatic immunity.  Nazis are just an   
   easy example because every few years another crawls out from under a   
   rock, mistakenly thinking it's been long enough that we've forgotten   
   about them, and the media goes nuts--unlike for the modern ones.   
      
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