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|    henhanna@gmail.com to Stephen Sprunk    |
|    Re: Train accident victim (Berkeley woma    |
|    08 Dec 15 10:50:54    |
      On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 4:25:53 PM UTC-8, Stephen Sprunk wrote:       > On 03-Dec-15 13:56, henha............. wrote:       > > I thought this was mainly a [personal jurisdiction] issue (case), but       > > the excerpts (from the linked pages in my OP (original post)) suggest       > > that there's more to it than that. (govt immunity)       > >        > > In this opinion        > > http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2012/09/26/11-15458.pdf       > > For some reason, they say [subj matter jurisdiction] and not       > > [personal jurisdiction]       >               > Federal courts only have subject-matter jurisdiction when it was given       > to them explicitly, either by the Constitution or by Congress.       >        > Congress only gave them jurisdiction over foreign sovereigns in very       > specific circumstances, none of which applied here. Therefore, they       > lacked subject matter--not personal--jurisdiction.       >        > They _did_ appear to have personal and territorial jurisdiction, but       > without subject-matter jurisdiction too, that was moot.       >        > S       >        > --                      Hello. Thanks for the comments. That makes sense.              > They _did_ appear to have ... territorial jurisdiction,               territorial jurisdiction -- really?       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_jurisdiction                     1. She asked for 20 million dollars.         I'm assuming such high awards don't happen in Europe.                      2. The following newspaper article (from 2 years ago)         includes this sentence.               > Fakt sei aber, dass "auf fahrende Züge" "nicht aufgesprungen werden" dürfe.                This is the only hint or suggestion of her [carelessness]         (or her [contributory negligence] )         that I've seen or read so far.                      (from 2 years ago)        http://www.heute.at/news/oesterreich/art23655,969710               Frau verlor Beine und klagt ÖBB auf Millionen ...               Die ÖBB kann die Forderungen nicht nachvollziehen. "Es gab bisher       widersprüchliche Urteile zur Causa", sagte ein ÖBB-Sprecher zum        Wirtschaftsblatt", der den "Unfall" als "sehr tragisch" bezeichnet.               Fakt sei aber, dass "auf fahrende Züge" "nicht aufgesprungen werden" dürfe.               Mit amerikanischen Anwälten bereite man sich jetzt auf einen möglichen Prozess       zu dem Vorfall vor.               ______________               Woman lost legs and complains ÖBB to millions ...               The ÖBB can not understand the demands. "There have been conflicting       assessments of the Causa," said a spokesman for ÖBB "Wirtschaftsblatt",         which refers to the "accident" as "very tragic".               Fact is, though, that are "not jumped" on moving trains "" should.               With American lawyers are preparing now for a possible process for the       incident.               --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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