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|    Stephen Sprunk to hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com    |
|    Re: Passenger versus freight was Re: Hoo    |
|    11 Apr 15 10:28:30    |
      From: stephen@sprunk.org              On 10-Apr-15 23:41, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:       > Stephen Sprunk wrote:       >> A mini high block requires bridge plates if it's not going to       >> conflict with freight trains, and that slows boarding--and       >> unpredictably so, which is worse.       >       > Many high platform stations require bridge plate because for       > wheelchairs (1) the gap between the platform and doorway is too wide       > and (2) the doorway and platform are not in vertical alignment.              Incompetent maintenance.              >> With a mix of platform heights, the crew still has to operate the       >> doors and traps, which adds time to every stop. It also increases       >> labor costs--money that should be invested into capital       >> improvements.       >       > ...       > Until SEPTA has the substantial capital funds to build--and       > maintain*--every station to full length high platform, it will need       > bigger crews.              ... and paying for those larger crews robs them of the funds they need       to improve the situation. That's why you use bonds for such things.              > *Maintenance will include lighting, repair, and snow removal and       > these are added costs.              The difference in cost to maintain short vs high platforms is       negligible. Longer platforms will cost a bit more to maintain, but not       enough to matter in the long run.              > FWIW, MNRR, LIRR, and NJT all have converted most of their networks       > to full length high level platform, and, run much longer trains than       > SEPTA (10-12 cars), yet still have large train crews. Indeed, NJT       > tried cutting back crew sizes and found it didn't work out.       >       > SEPTA may reduce railroad crew size when it introduces its new fare       > collection system.              Yet many FRA systems manage to run trains just as long with crews of 2,       and the second crewmember is only "required" by FRA and union rules;       non-FRA systems often run trains with crews of just 1, and we have       existence proof (BCTA) that it can be done safely with _zero_ crew.              >>> Further, high level paltforms get out of alignment (visit       >>> Princeton Jct) and cease being an improvement.       >>       >> That some operators are incompetent does not prove the idea bad.       >       > True, but are the other operators (eg NJT, LIRR, and MNRR) truly       > incompetent or just working in the real world? For instance, NJT       > doesn't control ballast height on the NEC, that's a function of       > Amtrak. I believe it is not an issue in places like Penna Station or       > Newark where the tracks are set in concrete; likewise in SEPTA's       > downtwon stations.              If direct fixation is the only solution that works within your       incompetent maintenance regime, then that's what you should do.              Many operators have no problem maintaining proper platform/floor alignment.              S              --       Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein       CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the       K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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