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|    Larry Sheldon to Stephen Sprunk    |
|    Re: Mind the gap: US and European train     |
|    28 Mar 15 18:46:42    |
      From: lfsheldon@gmail.com              On 3/28/2015 16:49, Stephen Sprunk wrote:       > On 21-Mar-15 16:58, bob wrote:       >> On 2015-03-21 20:25:46 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:       >>> btw, land is a lot easier to assess than buildings as you just need       >>> to know square footage and buildable characteristics and what       >>> surrounding properties are used for. With buildings, you have to       >>> keep up with changes in the building's characteristics over time       >>> and correctly entering building permits and the like. From a quick       >>> drive by, the number of bathrooms in a house isn't possible to       >>> estimate.       >>       >> The downside of land value tax is that the owner of the land will       >> find himself liable for this tax as a result of events entirely       >> outside of his own control. Suppose I buy a house in the "rough" end       >> of town because I can't afford a big enough house int the expensive       >> end of town. Suppose my part of town then goes up in the world and       >> suddenly my home becomes expensive. Is it really reasonable that I       >> should be liable for a huge tax demand that, perhaps, I can't afford,       >> because some other factors have come to bear on my neighbourhood?       >       > It's reasonable because you benefit (perhaps yet unrealized) from an       > increase in property value through no effort of your own. If you can't       > afford to pay the higher taxes, sell the property for a nice profit and       > move somewhere cheaper--and let someone else pay those higher taxes.       >       >> Perhaps a farmer buys a field in the middle of nowhere, to grow some       >> crops on. Then a highway gets built and suddenly his field is in the       >> middle of expensive commuter-land. Sure, if the farmer sold his       >> land, he could realise a huge profit,       >       > That's the point; farming is no longer the best use of that land, so he       > _should_ have an incentive to sell it to someone who will use it more       > productively--and pay higher taxes on it to fund the higher level of       > public services that will be needed.       >       >> but if all the farmland in the area suddenly becomes suburbia,       >       > He might have to move a few miles further away from the city, but that's       > it. Or he could just take the millions he made selling his farm to       > developers, invest it and retire.       >       >>> Land taxes tax value that the land owner hasn't created. The value       >>> is created by society in general; part of the value created by       >>> society is through government spending.       >>       >> Sure, land value tax is one way of taxing the benefit an individual       >> person gains from wider societal improvements. It is not the only       >> one, though, and in certain circumstances may not be the fairest       >> one.       >       > Land is the scarcest resource we have (as the saying goes, God ain't       > creating any more of it), and it's also the simplest to tax, the       > toughest tax to evade and the most stable tax base, all of which easily       > overcome the various factors that make other tax systems appear better       > on paper but much worse in practice.              The twisted thinking that is resulting in Omaha paving the prairie       westward. I expect that they will be collecting their "wheel tax" in       Cheyenne soon.                     --       The unique Characteristics of System Administrators:              The fact that they are infallible; and,              The fact that they learn from their mistakes.                     Quis custodiet ipsos custodes              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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