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   bob to Robert Heller   
   Re: Mind the gap: US and European train    
   21 Mar 15 12:52:28   
   
   From: rcp27g@gmail.com   
      
   On 2015-03-19 20:06:53 +0000, Robert Heller said:   
      
   > At Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:49:01 -0700 Nobody  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:06:20 +0000 (UTC), John Levine    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In article  you write:   
   >>>> http://www.aei.org/publication/mind-the-gap-us-and-european-train-safety/   
   >>>   
   >>> "If we end federal subsidies to Amtrak, and require it to liquidate,   
   >>> then private companies would buy up its stations and routes. These   
   >>> companies could then begin running our trains with a level of   
   >>> professionalism that Americans now experience only when traveling   
   >>> abroad."   
   >>>   
   >>> Wow.   
   >>   
   >> I was gonna pick out the same portion.   
   >>   
   >> As if Euorpean passenger-rail services run without government (i.e.   
   >> taxpayer) investment/assistance/subsidies/handouts (check your   
   >> favourite expression).   
   >   
   > Are there any *privately* owned passenger-rail services (other than 'tourist'   
   > railroads) *anywhere* in the world?  Ones that operate without ANY government   
   > subsidies?   
   >   
   > Actually: are there any *privately* owned passenger services of any mode that   
   > operation without ANY government subsidies (direct or indirect)?   
      
   Considering that things like compulsory purchase powers over land are a   
   form of subsidy (because the buyer of that land is forcing the owner to   
   sell it at less than they would otherwise chose to sell it at), I would   
   extend that to any transportation infrastructure of any kind.   
      
   Transportation infrastructure is the classic case of the economic   
   benefits being almost entirely external to the owner of the   
   infrastructure.  In cases like this, it is pretty much universally   
   recognised that government provision (or interference in the market to   
   bring about the required objective) is beneficial to all.   
      
   Robin   
      
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