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   Re: GE Ft. Worth TX plant photo series   
   27 Oct 14 16:08:56   
   
   On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:47:32 -0700, Glen Labah    
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   >>  wrote in message   
   >> news:7p2k4ade9d4ltuq5ugajtuu3c8q9958998@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >> > Some of them may have thought such locos a bit brutal looking with   
   >> > much of the piping and other bits visible compared to a British Loco.   
      
   >There was also the deal where the typical British steam locomotive   
   >didn't need an air pump and related air brake pipe scattered all over   
   >the boiler since they used vacuum brakes during the steam years.   
   For a good part of the steam era until the 1920's  when most of the   
   British companies were amalmagated into larger ones a fair number used   
   the Westinghouse air brake and it existed in small pockets for much   
   later.   
   Here is a Loco that has been kept from that era with it's pump visible   
   in the 3rd photo down.   
   http://www.the-siding.co.uk/steam/pages/gladstone.htm   
   Air pump Loco in 1953   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/favorites/with/8662628995/lightbox/   
   The Isolated Isle of Wight network which was worked for years with   
   ancient stuff retired from the mainland was entirely Westinghouse till   
   most of it closed in 1966.   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMLBNheMsd8   
      
   Realistically British locos only needed the pumps for passenger stock,   
   freight stock being unbraked and relying on the crew member in the   
   brake van/caboose to use a manual brake in the van where needed and   
   partial applications of manual wagon brakes before a train set off   
   down a gradient. And British trains compared to most were short.   
   So they didn't need the pump capacity of a North American Loco   
   like the one you featured below.   
   >   
   >Imagine what Great Northern locomotives, in their splendid Green and   
   >Silver paint, would have looked like had they not also had to have air   
   >pumps on them:   
   >https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnm3000/7860816500/   
      
      
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