From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Jishnu Mukerji  wrote:   
   >On 7/30/2014 3:41 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >>>On 30-Jul-14 12:28, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >>>>>Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
      
   >>>>>>Note that, in many cities, the beltways are just as congested, if   
   >>>>>>not moreso, than the routes in/out of downtown.  At least for the   
   >>>>>>latter, half the trip will often be uncongested, depending on the   
   >>>>>>time of day.   
      
   >>>>>These days, with so much suburban office park development, beltways   
   >>>>>can be extremely congested, as you say.  Only beltways are   
   >>>>>congested all day long, seven days a week.   
      
   >>>>>I arrived by train in downtown Chicago.  Driving through city   
   >>>>>streets was no problem until I hit the suburbs--then the bad   
   >>>>>traffic jams started.   
      
   >>>>You know, hancock: We have trains into the suburbs as well, many of   
   >>>>which leave from that very same train station.   
      
   >>>Indeed, but many suburbs don't have local bus routes (at least to where   
   >>>you want to go) and/or taxis waiting.  These stations are used only as   
   >>>origins, not also as destinations.   
      
   >>We also have car-rental places in the suburbs. We also have hotels with   
   >>vans that pick people up at train stations. Who the hell would want to   
   >>visit Chicago, then rent a car downtown?   
      
   >Frankly, I'd take METRA to a suitable suburban stop and then get a ZIP   
   >car or something like that.   
      
   Those cars are adequate for the shortest rentals, only. More than three   
   or four hours, you're better off with a daily rental. Also, they're   
   pretty rare in the suburbs.   
      
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