From: jishnu@nospam.verizon.net   
      
   On 7/30/2014 3:41 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >> On 30-Jul-14 12:28, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >>>> Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>> Note that, in many cities, the beltways are just as congested, if   
   >>>>> not moreso, than the routes in/out of downtown.  At least for the   
   >>>>> latter, half the trip will often be uncongested, depending on the   
   >>>>> time of day.   
   >   
   >>>> These days, with so much suburban office park development, beltways   
   >>>> can be extremely congested, as you say.  Only beltways are   
   >>>> congested all day long, seven days a week.   
   >   
   >>>> I arrived by train in downtown Chicago.  Driving through city   
   >>>> streets was no problem until I hit the suburbs--then the bad   
   >>>> traffic jams started.   
   >   
   >>> You know, hancock: We have trains into the suburbs as well, many of   
   >>> which leave from that very same train station.   
   >   
   >> Indeed, but many suburbs don't have local bus routes (at least to where   
   >> you want to go) and/or taxis waiting.  These stations are used only as   
   >> origins, not also as destinations.   
   >   
   > We also have car-rental places in the suburbs. We also have hotels with   
   > vans that pick people up at train stations. Who the hell would want to   
   > visit Chicago, then rent a car downtown?   
   >   
      
   Frankly, I'd take METRA to a suitable suburban stop and then get a ZIP   
   car or something like that.   
      
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