From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >On 30-Jul-14 12:28, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >>>Stephen Sprunk wrote:   
      
   >>>>Note that, in many cities, the beltways are just as congested, if   
   >>>>not moreso, than the routes in/out of downtown.  At least for the   
   >>>>latter, half the trip will often be uncongested, depending on the   
   >>>>time of day.   
      
   >>>These days, with so much suburban office park development, beltways   
   >>>can be extremely congested, as you say.  Only beltways are   
   >>>congested all day long, seven days a week.   
      
   >>>I arrived by train in downtown Chicago.  Driving through city   
   >>>streets was no problem until I hit the suburbs--then the bad   
   >>>traffic jams started.   
      
   >>You know, hancock: We have trains into the suburbs as well, many of   
   >>which leave from that very same train station.   
      
   >Indeed, but many suburbs don't have local bus routes (at least to where   
   >you want to go) and/or taxis waiting.  These stations are used only as   
   >origins, not also as destinations.   
      
   We also have car-rental places in the suburbs. We also have hotels with   
   vans that pick people up at train stations. Who the hell would want to   
   visit Chicago, then rent a car downtown?   
      
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