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   "Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message   
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   > conklin  wrote:   
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   >>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message   
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   >>> conklin  wrote:   
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   >>>>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>> conklin  wrote:   
   >>>>>>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>conklin  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:58:03 PM UTC-4, Glen Labah wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>It's rather hard to take anything on an Americans for Prosperity   
   >>>>>>>>>>web   
   >>>>>>>>>>site seriously.  It's a mouthpiece basically for the Koch   
   >>>>>>>>>>Brothers.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Just a quick glimpse at their website shows all sorts of   
   >>>>>>>>>distortions   
   >>>>>>>>>about the investment costs in transit, Amtrak, highways and   
   >>>>>>>>>airways.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>They jumped onto the "free wine" bandwagon of complaints about   
   >>>>>>>>>Amtrak   
   >>>>>>>>>food service.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Bottom line:  my property taxes go up to pay for more highways.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>The gas tax needs to go up, not your property taxes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Perhaps you could explain how there's no relationship between   
   >>>>>>>transportation and land value, George, so that hancock's property   
   >>>>>>>taxes   
   >>>>>>>shouldn't go up if his highways are improved. If his highways suck,   
   >>>>>>>his property taxes should go down.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>I did not address the issue of transportation and land values.  Land   
   >>>>>>right   
   >>>>>>on a railroad?  Noise.  Too close to an airport?  Noise.  Too close to   
   >>>>>>a   
   >>>>>>highway?  Noise.  It all depends on where and what.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In many of those cases, proximity is an advantage for certain land   
   >>>>> uses.   
   >>>>> No one builds hotels for air travellers that aren't close to an   
   >>>>> airport.   
   >>>>> No one builds big-box stores and large office buildings on minor   
   >>>>> roads.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If hancock's road takes him to an employment center with good jobs,   
   >>>>> his land value rises. Why exactly shouldn't the highway be paid for   
   >>>>> with property taxes?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>The fuel tax should pay for roads.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nonresponsive   
   >>   
   >>Yes it is responsive.  The fuel tax needs to pay for roads.  You cannot a   
   >>national system with each person paying for the piece in front of his/her   
   >>house.  That is 1600 thinking, and it did not work then.  It won't work   
   >>now.   
   >   
   > I'm not discussing a frontage assessment, George, but a plain old   
   > property tax. I agree that a frontage assessment would be irrelevant   
   > toward paying for highways. Land value is based on other places you   
   > can get to readily that are worth getting to within a short time.   
   > Fuel tax doesn't measure this.   
      
   I am not sure why it matters about time.  The purpose of a national system   
   is to make travel efficient everywhere.   
      
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