John Albert  wrote:   
   > On 7/12/14 10:37 PM, dpeltier@my-deja.com wrote:   
   >>> You may counter that the "proper test" would be for the engineman to go   
   >>>> back to the cab, release all all, and see if the train moved. He   
   >   
   >> I certainly wouldn't say that. That doesn't sound very practical at all as   
   >> a general rule, for the reasons you give and some others too   
   >   
   > The procedure I described above is EXACTLY how Amtrak specifies the crew   
   > to "test" the brakes to see if the train is secured against movement.   
   >   
      
   And that may work just fine for passenger trains, I wouldn't know. And   
   maybe it's not a bad way to verify that the number of brakes called for in   
   the rules is enough. But it's not always going to be practical for freight   
   ops, for all the reasons you snipped.   
      
   Out of curiosity - what do Amtrak's rules say to do when you can't do this   
   test, such as when you set out cars with no power?   
      
   Dan   
      
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