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|    John Albert to dpeltier@my-deja.com    |
|    Re: Why no official report on Lac Megant    |
|    12 Jul 14 12:09:04    |
      From: j.albert@snet.net              On 7/12/14 1:36 AM, dpeltier@my-deja.com wrote:       > ohn, I don't think any of us have seen or heard what the prosecutors'       > theory of the case is, but the question of happened to the automatic brakes       > seems totally irrelevant to me. The train was required to have a sufficient       > number of handbrakes set to hold the train without air, and it did not.       > Seems to me the criminal case - at least for the engineer - will be all       > about determining whose fault that was, and whether it rises to the level       > of criminal recklessness. What happened with the automatic brakes should       > have been totally irrelevant, if handbrakes had been set as required.              The train did not move because of something the engineman       didn't do.              It moved because of something else that happened after he       left the scene.              I will guess (as I'm not privy to the special instructions,       either written or verbal, that were generally given to       engineman who tied down the train at that location) that the       instructions for the Nantes tie-down were to apply all       locomotive hand brakes and a certain number of car brakes.              I will also guess that the engineman complied with these       instructions. He may have miscounted a car brake or two.              You further wrote:       [[ How in the bloody hell would this exonerate anybody? The       rules require       sufficient handbrakes to hold the train, period. ]]              A word like "sufficient" is purposely left vague to protect       management in terms of mishaps and accidents.              You may counter that the "proper test" would be for the       engineman to go back to the cab, release all all, and see if       the train moved. He would then have to recharge the train,       put on a few more car brakes, and repeat the process. To do       all this takes time under "hours-of-service". I can't recall       just how much time he had left. In lieu of such things, the       operating officials may just issue instructions to apply all       loco hand brakes and so many car brakes, and (assuming that       number was complied with) the train would be ok to leave.              [[ The NTSB just released two reports on railroad accidents       at the beginning       of this month. The incidents are from July 2011 and July       2012 respectively.       The one incident I was personally familiar with took 27       months to release       the report. The reports include not just the facts, but also       an analysis of       the cause and contributing causes, along with suggested       remedial actions. ]]              What accidents were those?              --- SoupGate/W32 v1.03        * Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- UseNet FTN Gateway (1:2320/1)    |
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