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|    August Abolins to Wilfred van Velzen    |
|    Cops hate encryption but the NSA loves i    |
|    11 Jun 23 13:40:00    |
      MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 0955a198       REPLY: 2:280/464 647f4307       PID: OpenXP/5.0.57 (Win32)       CHRS: ASCII 1       TZUTC: -0400       Hello Wilfred!              ** On Tuesday 06.06.23 - 16:28, you wrote to me:               AA>> I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these        AA>> options to integrate more privacy in comms.               WvV> Support/availability doesn't automatically mean usage...               WvV> And you will have to configure it in Thunderbird. Most        WvV> users won't bother.              We/you don't know if people are not bothering. I get the        occassional question about the signature file that my TB        includes when I send a message. But unless they use TB        themselves, they won't have an easy path to change from their        confort-zone of the webbased gmail or outlook or hotmail or        live.com              And.. there is the ever pervasive notion that "there is nothing        worthy of secrecy in my email conversations, so privacy doesn't        matter".               AA>> Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep        AA>> investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of        AA>> collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible        AA>> outcome.               WvV> You don't know that! ;-)              There is no evidence that they have been successful in using        that system.                      AA>> They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular        AA>> suspect or small group.               WvV> You don't know that! ;-)              Based on some articles that do get out on mainstream media,        there is the occassional mention that enmasse data collection        has helped them follow a trail of a suspect. But, then they        have to ignore the billions of petrabytes of other info they        have collected. But even if if get reported as such, that could        be a ruse to keep the public in check.                     --         ../|ug              --- OpenXP 5.0.57        * Origin: What do you call an excavated pyramid? Unencrypted. (2:221/1.58)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 10/0 1 15/0 90/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201 123/131       SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 7715 154/10 203/0 214/22 218/0 1 215 700       SEEN-BY: 218/720 840 850 860 880 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/112 113 206 307 317 400 426 428 470 664 700 240/1120       SEEN-BY: 240/5832 266/512 280/464 5003 282/1038 291/111 292/854 8125       SEEN-BY: 301/1 310/31 317/3 320/219 322/757 341/66 234 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 423/81 120 460/58 633/280 712/848 770/1       PATH: 221/1 280/464 103/705 218/700 229/426           |
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