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   Message 803 of 845   
   August Abolins to Wilfred van Velzen   
   Cops hate encryption but the NSA loves i   
   11 Jun 23 13:40:00   
   
   MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 0955a198   
   REPLY: 2:280/464 647f4307   
   PID: OpenXP/5.0.57 (Win32)   
   CHRS: ASCII 1   
   TZUTC: -0400   
   Hello Wilfred!   
      
   ** On Tuesday 06.06.23 - 16:28, you wrote to me:   
      
    AA>> I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these   
    AA>> options to integrate more privacy in comms.   
      
    WvV> Support/availability doesn't automatically mean usage...   
      
    WvV> And you will have to configure it in Thunderbird. Most   
    WvV> users won't bother.   
      
   We/you don't know if people are not bothering. I get the     
   occassional question about the signature file that my TB     
   includes when I send a message. But unless they use TB     
   themselves, they won't have an easy path to change from their     
   confort-zone of the webbased gmail or outlook or hotmail or     
   live.com   
      
   And.. there is the ever pervasive notion that "there is nothing     
   worthy of secrecy in my email conversations, so privacy doesn't     
   matter".   
      
    AA>> Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep   
    AA>> investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of   
    AA>> collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible   
    AA>> outcome.   
      
    WvV> You don't know that! ;-)   
      
   There is no evidence that they have been successful in using     
   that system.   
      
      
    AA>> They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular   
    AA>> suspect or small group.   
      
    WvV> You don't know that! ;-)   
      
   Based on some articles that do get out on mainstream media,     
   there is the occassional mention that enmasse data collection     
   has helped them follow a trail of a suspect. But, then they     
   have to ignore the billions of petrabytes of other info they     
   have collected. But even if if get reported as such, that could     
   be a ruse to keep the public in check.   
      
      
   --    
     ../|ug   
      
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