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   Wilfred van Velzen to August Abolins   
   Re: Cops hate encryption but the NSA lov   
   06 Jun 23 16:28:14   
   
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   REPLY: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 092d744c   
   Hi August,   
      
   On 2023-06-06 08:34:00, you wrote to me:   
      
    AA>>> I bet gpg is more wide-spread in usage now than then.   
      
    WvV>> I don't see any evidence of that.   
      
    AA> Well.. Thunderbird has supported PGP/GPG integration for years   
    AA> via plugins, and now it is practically built-in and part of the   
    AA> whole program. An implementation like that only begs to be   
    AA> discovered and used. If the coders for TB have done this, they   
    AA> must have had the evidence or requests for that.   
      
    AA> Then there are all the other programs such as GPGTools   
    AA> GPGshell, etc.. that exist and continue to be supported.   
      
    AA> I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these   
    AA> options to integrate more privacy in comms.   
      
   Support/availability doesn't automatically mean usage...   
      
   And you will have to configure it in Thunderbird. Most users won't bother.   
      
    AA>>> Collecting and analying meta data NOW seems like a make-work   
    AA>>> project that wastes time and resources.   
      
    WvV>> Why do you think so. The NSA (and likes) wouldn't turn of   
    WvV>> their 2016 systems, if they still keep working and giving   
    WvV>> them valuable data...   
      
    AA> Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep   
    AA> investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of   
    AA> collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible   
    AA> outcome.   
      
   You don't know that! ;-)   
      
    AA> They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular   
    AA> suspect or small group.   
      
   You don't know that! ;-)   
      
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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