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   Wilfred van Velzen to August Abolins   
   Re: Safester, anyone?   
   28 Jan 22 16:51:15   
   
   TID: FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815   
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   PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20161221   
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   REPLY: 2:221/1.58@fidonet f8dc45e0   
   Hi August,   
      
   On 2022-01-28 09:11:00, you wrote to All:   
      
    AA> I'm giving it a go. It's actually not too bad.  It's almost like   
    AA> Protonmail (they generate a key/pair in the background, they claim the   
    AA> passphrase is never on the server, and the messages and attachments   
    AA> are stored encrypted on their server.) But unlike Protonmail, you   
    AA> operate the system with a standalone DT program that they provide, and   
    AA> get to use your existing email address of your choosing. (Protonmail   
    AA> creates an @protonmail.com address for you).  And, ofcourse there are   
    AA> Android and iOS versions too.   
      
   No Linux DT version?   
      
    AA> Unlike Protonmail, there is no export of the keys to share or   
    AA> adapt to another OpenGPG system.   
      
    AA> You basically have to trust that all the security concerns on   
    AA> the FAQ are legit.   
      
    AA> They do however store the passphrase using a SHA-1 hashcode.  I   
    AA> thought SHA-1 was depricated.   
      
   It is considered no longer safe, afaik...   
      
    AA> I wonder if that could be an issue if their database of SHA-1 hashes   
    AA> ever leaked.   
      
   An attacker with enough resources could in theory find some or all passwords.   
   And of course that becomes progressively easier in the future...   
      
    AA> Safester *is* different operationally.  It doesn't use the internet   
    AA> email system. Messages are only between client/server/ client.   
      
   So you can only exchange messages with other Safester users.   
      
   You're not a good sales person for Safester! Because all the things you   
   mention make me not want to use it! ;-)   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
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