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   Wilfred van Velzen to August Abolins   
   Re: pgp at border/airport   
   09 Jan 20 11:52:23   
   
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   REPLY: 2:221/360.0 5e152b34   
   Hi August,   
      
   On 2020-01-08 03:07:01, you wrote to All:   
      
    AA> Since border officers "may only examine what is stored within a   
    AA> device, which includes, for example, photos, files, downloaded e-mails   
    AA> and other media" [citation https://tinyurl.com/yeaxwn6o], would you   
    AA> have to allow encrytped data to be revealed?   
      
    AA> According to Border Security (a reality TV series that features Canada   
    AA> Border Services officers going about their day-to-day duties) they   
    AA> usually take the device away from you (after they request it to be   
    AA> unlocked) and walk off with it to separate location to examine the   
    AA> contents leaving you waiting outside.   
      
    AA> Seems to me that at that point you have cooperated fully.   
      
    AA> It seems to me that if your email/content were encrypted, then they   
    AA> cannot compel you to unlock each and every item inside.  I can't imagine   
    AA> unlocking every pgp'd email.  I fail too many times mistyping the   
    AA> passphrase on a tiny screen.   
      
    AA> For example, they examine your device, and find some messages that all   
    AA> begin with the pgp armour tag. At that point they *have* examined the   
    AA> content. Your encrypted data is safe.   
      
    AA> Thoughts?   
      
   I would avoid the situation, if I had anything to hide. Don't take your device   
   through the border, or don't put anything encrypted on it. Put what you need   
   somewhere in the cloud, that's not directly accesible from your device...   
      
   Being right, doesn't help you if you are being held for severall hours and you   
   miss apointments because of that untill they acknowledge you are in your   
   right...   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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