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|    Alexander Grotewohl to Kurt Weiske    |
|    Re: SAVE Act    |
|    17 Feb 26 13:01:19    |
      TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47       MSGID: 1:120/616 3533e694       REPLY: 37020.politics@1:218/700 2dfa4801       TZUTC: -0500       On 17 Feb 2026, Kurt Weiske said the following...                KW> And smug conservatives and MAGA respond with "I never had a problem        KW> showing ID at a gas station or grocery store..."        KW>         KW> Really? You've been asked to show PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP? No, you've been        KW> asked to show proof of age or proof of identity.              still mad everyone made fun of you on dovenet for that? ;)              and anyways, to vote you have to show id. to REGISTER to vote you need your       birth certificate. you're misrepresenting the conversation we had over there.               KW> something the courts have overruled. It disenfranchises women voters,        KW> as you've mentioned, and makes minorities in this country legally less        KW> likely to vote due to misinformation and fears.              you've made quite the whopper of a mistake here. why are "minorities in this       country legally" voting at all? if that wasn't your intended meaning, why are       you calling Americans "minorities in this country legally"? wtf? do you proof       read what your AI spits out?              as far as women are concerned, the combination of a birth certificate and a       marriage certificate is an established method of proving your identity. sites       like this debunk the narrative that birth certificates *ever* need to be       updated              https://legalclarity.org/do-you-change-your-name-on-your-birth-certificate-afte       r-marriage/              "A birth certificate is a legal document that captures details as they existed       when you were born."               KW> (And, you know ICE will be out in force at Blue election centers to        KW> lessen the threat that illegal voters pose)              you already know that harassing voters is illegal. you also can't predict the       future. are you fearmongering? are you sure you're not the one scaring people       not to vote?               KW> The Trump administration is closing down passport issuance at public        KW> libraries, because when you want to force people to use passports or        KW> other means of proof of citizenship, of course you MAKE IT HARDER TO        KW> US CITIZENS TO OBTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS.              "The State Department noted that 99% of the U.S. population lives within 20       miles of a designated passport processing location, such as a post office,       county clerk's office or government-run library authorized to accept in-person       passport applications."              it's funny, because PBS is very careful how they word their sad story:              "In Joyce's rural, south-central Pennsylvania district, the Marysville-Rye       Library is one of only two passport facilities serving the 556-square-mile       Perry County, according to the letter to Rubio. Now the county courthouse will       be the only remaining option."              i looked and this library is in a lovely single family home neighborhood,       surrounded by woods and far away from the poor. and the "only remaining       option"? 15 minutes south in their actual city.              ...              and in the end all of this is pointless anyways. because you can guarantee       every single state that hates it so much will immediately bend over backwards       to make all of this easier (and probably free). this is why you don't want to       freak out about everything you hear.              --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)        * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (1:120/616)       SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 102/401 103/1 705 104/119 105/81 106/201 114/10 120/616       SEEN-BY: 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/10 30 50 110       SEEN-BY: 154/700 203/0 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700 810 840 860 880       SEEN-BY: 220/20 90 221/0 6 226/18 20 30 44 50 227/114 229/110 112       SEEN-BY: 229/134 206 300 307 310 317 400 426 428 470 700 705 240/1120       SEEN-BY: 240/5832 263/1 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854       SEEN-BY: 292/8125 301/1 310/31 320/219 322/757 341/66 234 342/200       SEEN-BY: 396/45 423/120 460/58 633/280 712/848 770/1 902/26 2320/105       SEEN-BY: 3634/12 5020/400 5075/35       PATH: 120/616 154/10 280/464 103/705 218/700 229/426           |
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