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   Alexander Grotewohl to Kurt Weiske   
   Re: SAVE Act   
   17 Feb 26 13:01:19   
   
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   On 17 Feb 2026, Kurt Weiske said the following...   
       
    KW>  And smug conservatives and MAGA respond with "I never had a problem   
    KW>  showing ID at a gas station or grocery store..."   
    KW>    
    KW>  Really? You've been asked to show PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP? No, you've been   
    KW>  asked to show proof of age or proof of identity.   
      
   still mad everyone made fun of you on dovenet for that? ;)   
      
   and anyways, to vote you have to show id. to REGISTER to vote you need your   
   birth certificate. you're misrepresenting the conversation we had over there.   
      
    KW>  something the courts have overruled. It disenfranchises women voters,   
    KW>  as you've mentioned, and makes minorities in this country legally less   
    KW>  likely to vote due to misinformation and fears.   
      
   you've made quite the whopper of a mistake here. why are "minorities in this   
   country legally" voting at all? if that wasn't your intended meaning, why are   
   you calling Americans "minorities in this country legally"? wtf? do you proof   
   read what your AI spits out?   
      
   as far as women are concerned, the combination of a birth certificate and a   
   marriage certificate is an established method of proving your identity. sites   
   like this debunk the narrative that birth certificates *ever* need to be   
   updated   
      
   https://legalclarity.org/do-you-change-your-name-on-your-birth-certificate-afte   
   r-marriage/   
      
   "A birth certificate is a legal document that captures details as they existed   
   when you were born."   
      
    KW>  (And, you know ICE will be out in force at Blue election centers to   
    KW>  lessen the threat that illegal voters pose)   
      
   you already know that harassing voters is illegal. you also can't predict the   
   future. are you fearmongering? are you sure you're not the one scaring people   
   not to vote?   
      
    KW>  The Trump administration is closing down passport issuance at public   
    KW>  libraries, because when you want to force people to use passports or   
    KW>  other means of proof of citizenship, of course you MAKE IT HARDER TO   
    KW>  US CITIZENS TO OBTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS.   
      
   "The State Department noted that 99% of the U.S. population lives within 20   
   miles of a designated passport processing location, such as a post office,   
   county clerk's office or government-run library authorized to accept in-person   
   passport applications."   
      
   it's funny, because PBS is very careful how they word their sad story:   
      
   "In Joyce's rural, south-central Pennsylvania district, the Marysville-Rye   
   Library is one of only two passport facilities serving the 556-square-mile   
   Perry County, according to the letter to Rubio. Now the county courthouse will   
   be the only remaining option."   
      
   i looked and this library is in a lovely single family home neighborhood,   
   surrounded by woods and far away from the poor. and the "only remaining   
   option"? 15 minutes south in their actual city.   
      
   ...   
      
   and in the end all of this is pointless anyways. because you can guarantee   
   every single state that hates it so much will immediately bend over backwards   
   to make all of this easier (and probably free). this is why you don't want to   
   freak out about everything you hear.   
      
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