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   -=> Joseph Pereira wrote to All <=-   
      
      
    JP> In the US, the SAVE Act has become law. You must show your birth   
    JP> certificate or passport to vote. This is very disadvantageous for   
    JP> women, because they almost always took their husband's surname, meaning   
    JP> their birth certificates are no longer valid. In the US, only 50% of   
    JP> residents have a passport. Women will therefore find out en masse that   
    JP> they cannot vote in November.   
      
    It hasn't passed the senate yet, or been signed by Trump. While it is   
    disingenuous in the sense that it doesn't solve a material problem   
    (anyone, name a presidential election affected by illegal votes, or   
    better yet, document the number of cases of votes by illegal aliens?)   
      
    What it does do is pressure states to turn over voter rolls to DHS,   
    something the courts have overruled. It disenfranchises women voters,   
    as you've mentioned, and makes minorities in this country legally less   
    likely to vote due to misinformation and fears.   
      
    (And, you know ICE will be out in force at Blue election centers to   
    lessen the threat that illegal voters pose)   
      
    Poor people without proper documentation will be forced to pay for   
    copies of birth certificates, a de facto poll tax.   
      
    The Trump administration is closing down passport issuance at public   
    libraries, because when you want to force people to use passports or   
    other means of proof of citizenship, of course you MAKE IT HARDER TO   
    US CITIZENS TO OBTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS.   
      
    And smug conservatives and MAGA respond with "I never had a problem   
    showing ID at a gas station or grocery store..."   
      
    Really? You've been asked to show PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP? No, you've been   
    asked to show proof of age or proof of identity.   
      
    It's all about disenfranchising voters. The administration has said as   
    much!   
      
      
      
      
      
       
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