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|    Joseph Pereira to All    |
|    Ukraine has been betrayed by Russia AND     |
|    13 Jan 26 06:45:12    |
      TZUTC: -0600       MSGID: 37635.fido_politics@1:124/5016 2dcc075b       PID: Synchronet 3.21b-Linux master/cdb446af0 Jan 09 2026 GCC 13.3.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.34-Linux master/cdb446af0 Jan 09 2026 GCC 13.3.0       BBSID: EOTLBBS       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       NOTE: FSEditor.js v1.105              The 1994 Budapest Memorandum essentially stipulates a few things.              In exchange for the nuclear weapons located in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus,       and Ukraine would receive guarantees.              Russia, the US, and the UK, and later endorsed by China and France, made       security commitments.              1. Respect for the sovereignty of Kazakhstan, Belarus, and Ukraine.              2. No military force or the threat thereof.              3. No economic coercion.              4. In the event of a threat of nuclear weapons, the signatories will take       action through the UN.              5. No use of nuclear weapons.              6. Consultation in disputes.              It is clear that Russia violated Parts 1 and 2 long ago, because it began to       act politically in Ukraine. After 2012, this became a Russian-sponsored armed       uprising by Russian soldiers posing as Ukrainian citizens. In 2014, this       turned into an open uprising in Kyiv and eastern Ukraine. Russia also occupied       all of Crimea and seized the Ukrainian navy. In 2022, it became a full-blown       invasion on multiple fronts simultaneously.              So Russia didn't comply.              But then we look at the US.              Trump indicated that Zelensky simply had to make a minerals deal with the US,       or there would be no American aid. That is therefore a clear violation of       condition three. This makes the US just as villainous as Russia, only they       haven't yet used weapons against Ukraine.              What is crystal clear is that all the treaties with Russia, China, and the US       are simply bullshit. Survival of the fittest prevails.              In my opinion, this means that countries like Canada, Australia, South Korea,       but also Poland and Ukraine, should arm themselves with nuclear weapons. North       Korea teaches us that this is truly the only way to keep the big three at bay.       Everything these three say and do is self-interest. They don't do anything for       you. They just want to profit. The only way to create a more level playing       field is to know that ANYONE can destroy the other at ANY time. That humbles       them, until some idiot finally checks if it's a bluff and unleashes Armageddon.                      .       --- SBBSecho 3.34-Linux        * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)       SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201 124/0 5016 128/187       SEEN-BY: 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700 810       SEEN-BY: 218/840 860 880 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 134 206 300 307       SEEN-BY: 229/317 400 426 428 470 700 705 266/512 280/464 291/111 292/854       SEEN-BY: 301/1 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/280 712/848       SEEN-BY: 902/26 5075/35       PATH: 124/5016 218/700 229/426           |
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