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   Message 39,303 of 39,875   
   IB Joe to Pablo Gener   
   Re: Maduro's regime is down   
   09 Jan 26 16:10:16   
   
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   On 08 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...   
      
    PG>    
    PG> I'll say it a millionn times: there's no reason to justify the president   
    PG> of one country (any country, wehre the US is *just* another country, not   
    PG> better not  worse than any other), to kidnap the president of another   
    PG> country.   
    PG>    
      
      
   It's hard to communicate sometimes through sending message...   
      
   Let it  be known I love debate and hearing ideas.   
      
   I have wrote a lot in the past few days... and I'll try to thread the needle   
   here again.   
      
   Someone said that Trump entering Venezuela and kidnapping V.D. was a bad   
   Precedent...  He needed Congressional approval.   
      
   I mentioned, a fact and provable, that any President since entering the second   
   World War has not asked Congress for approval.   
      
   Google it...  I don't agree with it being done...  BUT it is a fact.   
      
   Do I wish the US never got involved in the Korean conflict... I don't think   
   they should have gotten involved.   
      
   Do I wish the US never got involved in Vietnam... Absolutely NOT... ~50K   
   Americans died and millions of others died and harmed... and they walked away   
   without winning.   
      
   They went into Granada without Congressional approval... Same Shit different   
   day.   
      
   They went into Afghanistan, I was OK with at the beginning (911) and not so   
   much latter... The US playing Wack-A-Mole in the Middle East, NOT GOOD.  And   
   then Joe Biden pulls out like he did... Not cool!!!   
      
   The list goes on and on and on with Presidents not seeking Congressional   
   approval... do I agree with it... NO... but facts are facts.   
      
   George W was able to do some of the things he did by naming things   
   terrorist... <--- NOW that is a precedent... I didn't mind that initially to   
   get Bin Ladin... But didn't agree with it when he started playing Wack-A-Mole   
   with it.  All the elites wanting to spread democracy in the Middle East like   
   they value the things we do.   
      
   So, in comes Trump... Over 100K  people die from Fentanyl and drug overdoses.   
   He did what George W did... Declared the Drug Cartels Narco Terrorist and went   
   to work for the people.   
      
   Blowing up drug boats and stopping a Narco terrorist group from profiting off   
   their oil reserves.   
      
   Trump said that China and Russia are in Venezuela... There was a video of   
   someone from there confirming this.     
      
   There is an old Doctrine called the Monroe Doctrine, look it up, Trump has   
   adopted this Doctrine and it has since been renamed to the Donroe Doctrine.   
      
   Trump has has said that he doesn't want any of the US adversaries in the   
   West.  Kind of makes sense.  Russia can influence Europe, China can influence   
   Asia...    
      
   I'm a wait and see guy... makes sense.   
      
   Today Venezuela has a chance to be free.  TODAY the current leaders of   
   Venezuela release all the Political Prisoners (In the News Today).  Venezuelan   
   Dad will see his day in court and things might work out for those people.   
      
   As an aside... Cuba is on the brink of collapse  because of Trump. During the   
   Venezuelan Dad's arrest there were 40 people who died... 34 were Cuban.    
   Apparently V.D. gave Cuba, I heard, 100K barrels of oil each month in exchange   
   for security and intel.   
      
   Daddy Trump is blocking those oil shipments and as a result the Cuban   
   government is in crisis and will probably fall sometime this year.  This is   
   good news for the Cubans...   
      
   Things are progressing and I have a wait to see attitude.  I don't like wars   
   and conflicts, am I right who knows.  I had 2 grandparents fight in WWII... is   
   what it is... I am a dual citizen Canadian and American... in the US there   
   isn't anyone I know who hasn't been affected by these Presidents starting   
   conflicts. Its everywhere... I could go to lunch and a wounded vet could come   
   in missing limbs... I don't like it but it is what it is.   
      
   If Trump came out tomorrow and said the US was pulling out of NATO... I'd be   
   all in.  We'd  be off the hook for all the endless wars and lives destroyed.    
   Y'all can fight your own wars and we'll fight ares.   
      
   These are my opinions, I'm aloud to have them here in the west.  I may not be   
   right and I don't care.  I may move on them at some point if I hear something   
   more convincing.   
      
   Russia and Ukraine is nothing more than a money laundering scheme where the   
   West pays for most of it and not the actors in the area where the conflict is.   
      
   Trump wants to end that conflict, if he can, and he wants to see peace.   
      
   I think you, and I could be wrong, attach negative motives to Trump's efforts   
   in doing so.   
      
   Maybe that better clarifies my position.   
      
   IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)    
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