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|    IB Joe to Pablo Gener    |
|    Re: Maduro's regime is down    |
|    09 Jan 26 16:10:16    |
      TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A49       MSGID: 1:342/201 11742e7d       REPLY: 4:900/102 7c203b2a       TZUTC: -0800       On 08 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...               PG>         PG> I'll say it a millionn times: there's no reason to justify the president        PG> of one country (any country, wehre the US is *just* another country, not        PG> better not worse than any other), to kidnap the president of another        PG> country.        PG>                      It's hard to communicate sometimes through sending message...              Let it be known I love debate and hearing ideas.              I have wrote a lot in the past few days... and I'll try to thread the needle       here again.              Someone said that Trump entering Venezuela and kidnapping V.D. was a bad       Precedent... He needed Congressional approval.              I mentioned, a fact and provable, that any President since entering the second       World War has not asked Congress for approval.              Google it... I don't agree with it being done... BUT it is a fact.              Do I wish the US never got involved in the Korean conflict... I don't think       they should have gotten involved.              Do I wish the US never got involved in Vietnam... Absolutely NOT... ~50K       Americans died and millions of others died and harmed... and they walked away       without winning.              They went into Granada without Congressional approval... Same Shit different       day.              They went into Afghanistan, I was OK with at the beginning (911) and not so       much latter... The US playing Wack-A-Mole in the Middle East, NOT GOOD. And       then Joe Biden pulls out like he did... Not cool!!!              The list goes on and on and on with Presidents not seeking Congressional       approval... do I agree with it... NO... but facts are facts.              George W was able to do some of the things he did by naming things       terrorist... <--- NOW that is a precedent... I didn't mind that initially to       get Bin Ladin... But didn't agree with it when he started playing Wack-A-Mole       with it. All the elites wanting to spread democracy in the Middle East like       they value the things we do.              So, in comes Trump... Over 100K people die from Fentanyl and drug overdoses.       He did what George W did... Declared the Drug Cartels Narco Terrorist and went       to work for the people.              Blowing up drug boats and stopping a Narco terrorist group from profiting off       their oil reserves.              Trump said that China and Russia are in Venezuela... There was a video of       someone from there confirming this.               There is an old Doctrine called the Monroe Doctrine, look it up, Trump has       adopted this Doctrine and it has since been renamed to the Donroe Doctrine.              Trump has has said that he doesn't want any of the US adversaries in the       West. Kind of makes sense. Russia can influence Europe, China can influence       Asia...               I'm a wait and see guy... makes sense.              Today Venezuela has a chance to be free. TODAY the current leaders of       Venezuela release all the Political Prisoners (In the News Today). Venezuelan       Dad will see his day in court and things might work out for those people.              As an aside... Cuba is on the brink of collapse because of Trump. During the       Venezuelan Dad's arrest there were 40 people who died... 34 were Cuban.        Apparently V.D. gave Cuba, I heard, 100K barrels of oil each month in exchange       for security and intel.              Daddy Trump is blocking those oil shipments and as a result the Cuban       government is in crisis and will probably fall sometime this year. This is       good news for the Cubans...              Things are progressing and I have a wait to see attitude. I don't like wars       and conflicts, am I right who knows. I had 2 grandparents fight in WWII... is       what it is... I am a dual citizen Canadian and American... in the US there       isn't anyone I know who hasn't been affected by these Presidents starting       conflicts. Its everywhere... I could go to lunch and a wounded vet could come       in missing limbs... I don't like it but it is what it is.              If Trump came out tomorrow and said the US was pulling out of NATO... I'd be       all in. We'd be off the hook for all the endless wars and lives destroyed.        Y'all can fight your own wars and we'll fight ares.              These are my opinions, I'm aloud to have them here in the west. I may not be       right and I don't care. I may move on them at some point if I hear something       more convincing.              Russia and Ukraine is nothing more than a money laundering scheme where the       West pays for most of it and not the actors in the area where the conflict is.              Trump wants to end that conflict, if he can, and he wants to see peace.              I think you, and I could be wrong, attach negative motives to Trump's efforts       in doing so.              Maybe that better clarifies my position.              IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)        AKA Joe Schweier       SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53        -=JoesBBS.com=-              ... What do you mean, QWK? 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