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   IB Joe to All   
   FAFO???   
   09 Jan 26 14:48:16   
   
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   I wanted to say more but I have broken into 2 messages.   
      
   I know that not everyone here is from the US or knows the US gun laws.   
      
   There is a few terms you need to know...   
      
   1) Castle Doctrine.   
   2) Stand Your ground   
      
   Castle Doctrine does not apply to the shooting in Minnesota that involved an   
   ICE agent.  Castle Doctrine allows someone to protect your house and family.    
   You can meet the robber with equal or great force and you don't have to look   
   for ways to avoid the conflict.  Some Stats require, if you can, to avoid the   
   conflict.     
      
   Stand your Ground... for regular folks, not police, means that you don't have   
   to look for a way to exit the conflict and you can meet the aggressor with   
   equal or greater force.   
      
   The threat has to be real or perceived as to a normal person.  So... if   
   there's a road rage incident and you want to go back and bang on the guys   
   window and yell and threaten the person you're pissed off at... Stand your   
   Ground laws states that you, the victim, can address that person with equal to   
   or greater force and shoot him.   
      
   There are several States that are Stand Your Ground... Florida and Texas to   
   name a few.   
      
   Minnesota allows for self defense, but requires that you look for a way to   
   retreat.  If you pull out a gun and the aggressor is running away... You can't   
   shoot, threat is gone.   
      
   Self defense for law enforcement... Laws both Federally and at the State level   
   side with the police... For the Most part...    
      
   When it comes to looking at situations like this the cop/ICE agent was a few   
   feet away from the front of the vehicle.  The driver was in reverse and then   
   put it into gear.  Move the steering in the direction of the ICE agent and hit   
   the gas.   
      
   FOR THOSE who don't know this ICE Agent was the agent who was hit by a car and   
   dragged for someways and was hospitalized and received 37 stitches... Just a   
   few weeks back.   
      
   The ICE Agent had a split second to make a decision and he made a defensive   
   shot.  The investigators will be focused on the second or two leading up to   
   the shotting and if they can see that he felt threatened the law, Federal or   
   State will side with the ICE agent.   
      
   BTW, if that ICE agent was further away down the street some... Minnesota law   
   would have required to step aside.   
      
   https://youtu.be/Y04ndAPynMk?si=eStfOaDvOH7UdeTF   
      
   This is a link to a Lawyer I like to follow on gun laws.  He breaks it down   
   nicely and explains the laws at the both levels.   
      
   The woman knew she was talking to Federal Agents.  She and her wife were both   
   talking to the agents, tauntingly...  The Federal Agents were telling the   
   driver to get out of the vehicle, a lawful command, and she decided to drive   
   towards an agent aggressively who was a few feet away.   
      
   She was shot and died.   
      
   I don't see the agent getting charged or being reprimanded.   
      
   https://youtu.be/rpcCQTGfPLo?si=fQ0HyJrVbsuiiqfF   
      
   The body cam footage released... Does not look good for the dead girl.   
      
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