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    IJ> Dred Scott was once the law of the land.  If it wasn't for that   
    IJ> Hallmark Supreme Court decision.  Abe Lincoln would not have been riled   
    IJ> up enough to into politics and run for office.   
      
   The Republican Party was started as an anti-slavery party, so that would make   
   sense.   
      
   Which would mean that the Dems are the pro-slavery party, which also makes   
   sense.   
      
    IJ> Ron, I need some latitude to explain some of my thinking here, please!   
      
   You missed a few things.   
      
   1. Blacks were elected to gov't office - but all were Republican.   
   2. We need to understand that there are 2 "classes" of blacks:  a) The   
   productive ones that adopted european values.  They lived in the North for a   
   long time.  b) The animalistic ones that adopted the white-trash southern   
   culture.   
   3. Blacks in the north had spend decades/generations proving themselves as   
   upstanding people - and were successful.   
   4. But the Dems pushed the trashy ones up from the South into those Northern   
   areas to erode, and later, reverse much of the Northern black's progress.   
      
   At some point here, and I'll have to refer back to a Thomas Sowell book, the   
   Dems created the Welfare state and, for the first time since the Civil War,   
   blacks started voting Democrat.  Up until then, they knew which party freed   
   them and what party wanted to enslave them.  But the need for free stuff   
   overrode that.   
      
    IJ> In the mid 60s they passed laws allowing for redistricting   
    IJ> (constitutional) BUT (and a big one) the democrats argued that blacks   
    IJ> would run for office and the white Democrats wouldn't vote for them...   
    IJ> so... Gerrymandering became the focus for the Democrats.   
      
   What happened was that the southern trash blacks caused a polarization of   
   neighborhoods. Ex: Harlem in NYC.   
      
   So the areas of Democrat sheep were small and localized.  And productive blacks   
   and whites wanted to keep them out of their neighborhoods.   
      
   Just take a look at the "heat map" of the 2024 election (heck, just about every   
   election).  The "blue" areas were only around big cities while 90% of the   
   country was Republican.   
      
   The only way for Dems to scam more power was to Gerrymander - but that had been   
   going on for a long, long time.   
      
    IJ> LBJ, said during his presidency that he'll have the N-Word people   
    IJ> voting Democrat for the next 200 years.  It was what I mention above   
    IJ> and a bunch of other things that helped make that possible.   
      
   Oh, ya, that was their plan.   
      
    IJ> I argue the jig is up.   
      
   The jig was up a while ago.  That's why the Dems needed to import their voters.   
      
    IJ> Historically the Democrats twist and turn things that are   
    IJ> constitutional and do whatever it takes to exploit the system to gain   
    IJ> power.   
      
   "Rules for thee, but not for me."   
      
    IJ> They are sick and do not give a sh!t about anybody at all.   
      
   Yup.  That's why I call them "Elitists".  They believe that they are above   
   everyone else and everyone else is just a bug to be stepped on to get what they   
   want.   
      
    IJ> Apparently Blacks are monolithic voters and vote for Democrats only...   
    IJ> I said that sarcastically!!!   
      
   That's part of the Dems' problem.  They treat the country as groups of   
   hive-minded people, not as individuals.   
      
    IJ> Today the courts have seen the Democrats working their magic buy   
    IJ> squeezing TF out of things to gain power.  Its sick how they do this.   
    IJ> They don't care about their constituents and they openly hate the   
    IJ> country and want to see it fail.   
      
   As you've pointed out above, they don't care about anyone but themselves.   
      
   IHMO: This is becomming very appearant to everyone.  Only the ones who's hair   
   dye has soaked in to their brain can't see it.  That's why the Dem approval is   
   below 20% today.   
      
    IJ> Having said that...  We know what the constitution says about   
    IJ> elections... I say that congress can add some oversight and regulations   
    IJ> to the mix.   
      
   The Constitution clearly states that the States get to set their own local   
   rules.  So this isn't an interpretation.   
      
   About all the Fed can do is declare that the election was fraudlent and refuse   
   to seat the reps from those states.   
      
   I know. Its frustrating.  I would love to see the Feds walk in to my SoS's   
   office and cart her off for election fraud.  But it's outside of their   
   jurisdiction right now.   
      
    IJ> Voter roles need to be cleaned up, dead people, illegals and people who   
    IJ> have moved out of the area need to be deleted from the rolls.   
      
   The Feds are doing this right now.  16 lawsuits in Federal Court over this.   
      
    IJ> Voter ID and proof that you are a citizen.   
      
   I think they can force this because the Constitution already says that only   
   citizens can vote.   
   But many states allow illegals to have ID, so voter ID may not be adequate.   
      
    IJ> This is important... If there is a challenge it needs to be dealt with   
    IJ> publicly and thoroughly so that "The People" are satisfied that the   
    IJ> Democrats haven't found an other way to squeeze the F*ck out of the   
    IJ> system.   
      
   But they've done so good over the decades of avoiding that.  Like throwing Tina   
   Peters in prison.   
      
    IJ> If your state is messed up you can move.  I know Michigan is not as bad   
    IJ> as New York... BUT if it falls you can move.   
      
   But movement isn't a guarantee that the state you move to will become   
   enshittified later when moving isn't an option.   
      
    IJ> The Democrats take a beautiful and well thought out document like the   
    IJ> Constitution.  The founding fathers had no way to predict what the   
    IJ> Democrats would do to the system.   
      
   No.  Otherwise there would have been an amendment to shoot them on sight.   
      
      
   ... Well, to be frank, I'd have to change my name.   
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